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jhe10 said:
Having worked for a drug and alcohol charity, a few (perhaps) relevant thoughts:
1. If we lost a client to a drug related death, it was a huge thing with an investigation and reviews to see what lessons could be learned and whether it was in any way avoidable. If we lost a client to an alcohol related death it was no less sad, but it was a frequent and expected consequence of long term alcohol abuse.
2. Alcohol related deaths (leaving aside accidents and drunk driving etc.) are almost always caused by the long term heavy use of alcohol, although alcohol ODs are not unknown. Drug related deaths are generally consequences of the illegal and illicit use of drugs. ODs for example are usually the result of either unexpectedly pure drugs (i.e. not cut with as much other stuff like baby powder as normal) or by people using after a spell off it either through rehab or prison and therefore not having the tolerance for their usual dosage. Other drug related deaths or health issues come from the conditions that drugs are used in e.g. sharing dirty needles. The point is that much of the health issues and deaths from drugs would be much reduced by legalisation.
3. Before we even get to whether legalisation would be a good idea (and I'm still torn on that), properly funding drug and alcohol services would hugely reduce the health and criminal justice costs of drug and alcohol misuse. Funding was massively reduced under the last government because of both local government cuts and a fear of what the Daily Mail might say about a humane and effective drug and alcohol policy. It makes sense both as the right thing to do, and because it would save money in the long run.
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And if they were paying taxes it would go towards their NHS treatment. They contribute no extra taxes whilst smokers and drinkers pay billions on top of NI and income tax to go towards the NHS whilst zealots are often saying that smokers and drinkers shouldn’t be treated for indulging in their legal, heavily taxes, vices.
 
Cityzen said:
And if they were paying taxes it would go towards their NHS treatment. They contribute no extra taxes whilst smokers and drinkers pay billions on top of NI and income tax to go towards the NHS whilst zealots are often saying that smokers and drinkers shouldn’t be treated for indulging in their legal, heavily taxes, vices.
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Look at how much tax the legal weed industry generates in colarado for example
 
allowentry said:
Vapes should also be completely banned, sick of been at footy or in a pub and hit by the stench of ****ing candy floss or whatever they are. Thought they were banned in pubs but they don't seem to enforce it.
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An adult man sucking on a candy floss vape should get an immediate life sentence without parole.

But seriously, the number of kids using those things is shocking, it’s a predatory industry pedaling nicotine addiction to children. Tax the absolute crap out of them and add huge fines for any shop found selling them to under 18’s.
 
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