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Howdentiger2 said:
Or just stick them on national service for a few years
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Easier to legalise drugs, remove the reason for the majority of knife crime/imprisonment, tax and legislate the sale and use the revenue for community, health and social projects in deprived areas.

It has been over 50 years fighting a losing battle and drug usage around the world is higher than ever. Probably no adult under the age of 70 in the UK who couldn't get a gram of coke within a few hours. Time to accept defeat.
 
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Heimdallr said:
Easier to legalise drugs, remove the reason for the majority of knife crime/imprisonment, tax and legislate the sale and use the revenue for community, health and social projects in deprived areas.

It has been over 50 years fighting a losing battle and drug usage around the world is higher than ever. Probably no adult under the age of 70 in the UK who couldn't get a gram of coke within a few hours. Time to accept defeat.
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You think there won’t be gangs undercutting the price of the legal, taxed stuff?
 
Cityzen said:
They certainly do with cigarettes as regular raids on shops demonstrate.
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As with any commerce there will be a level of illegality involved, but it would be a tiny percentage of what it is now. Do New York residents buy weed/edibles from teenage street dealers, who fight over turf, or do they buy them, safe in the knowledge of the safety and controlled quality, from the many shops?

Prohibition didn't work. Trying to stop the British public from taking drugs isn't either. It's time to grow up, accept that society has made a decision and to control and legislate it. Save money, make money, put it to good use, rather than raising capital gains tax and cutting winter fuel subsidies.
 
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Heimdallr said:
As with any commerce there will be a level of illegality involved, but it would be a tiny percentage of what it is now. Do New York residents buy weed/edibles from teenage street dealers, who fight over turf, or do they buy them, safe in the knowledge of the safety and controlled quality, from the many shops?

Prohibition didn't work. Trying to stop the British public from taking drugs isn't either. It's time to grow up, accept that society has made a decision and to control and legislate it. Save money, make money, put it to good use, rather than raising capital gains tax and cutting winter fuel subsidies.
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There are still plenty of people in the USA buying drugs from dealers.
 
Heimdallr said:
Easier to legalise drugs, remove the reason for the majority of knife crime/imprisonment, tax and legislate the sale and use the revenue for community, health and social projects in deprived areas.

It has been over 50 years fighting a losing battle and drug usage around the world is higher than ever. Probably no adult under the age of 70 in the UK who couldn't get a gram of coke within a few hours. Time to accept defeat.
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I agree, I've said the same for years. Legalise it, tax the hell outta it, make it safer and take the advantage away from the criminals etc. alcohol is legal and that's a much worse drug then MDMA or Pot for example
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
I agree, I've said the same for years. Legalise it, tax the hell outta it, make it safer and take the advantage away from the criminals etc. alcohol is legal and that's a much worse drug then MDMA or Pot for example
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Legalise it, tax it and then see gangs smuggling it in and getting involved in turf wars selling it cheaper. Exactly the same as now.
 
Cityzen said:
Legalise it, tax it and then see gangs smuggling it in and getting involved in turf wars selling it cheaper. Exactly the same as now.
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Bar we get the tax revenue, make legitimate avenues available and safer, have some sort of control and eliminate a lot of the illegal trade.
 
Cityzen said:
Legalise it, tax it and then see gangs smuggling it in and getting involved in turf wars selling it cheaper. Exactly the same as now.
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The economies of scale - legal commercial production, legislated transport and a safe point of sale would reduce criminality to a small percentage of what it is now. To smuggle something in, you lose money on transport/seizures, paying off ppl that it renders the profit to very little, when competing against a legal enterprise


There's a reason why ppl aren't buying edibles/da herb on the streets of new York anymore. There's a reason why you don't go to Tottenham to buy a 24 pack of John Smith's out the back of someone's car to save a pound.
 
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HCAFCHangout said:
Being very frank. I can buy whatever I want right now illegally. However, if I was offered a safer legal option I’m taking it 100% of the time and most would
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You say that but who knows? Cost of living crisis and all that. Which drugs do you think should be sold legally?
 
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