Today's celery is tomorrows darts if a line isn't drawn. We've seen the way it goes if unchecked. *at least you can see darts coming. It was the coins, nuts and BB's that used to catch me out.
1,000 oranges or two sticks of celery ? Are you saying the orange ( and toilet roll) throwing youth of the late 60's are to blame ?
I think you're trying to put words in my mouth to justify a spurious argument. Chuck ****e on pitch, you should serve a ban. Keep doing it and It should be permanent. Chuck ****e at players or fans, then ban em outright. No soft warning.
How many received life bans for the tennis ball protest ? ( the above post beat me to it) Final word on this. The items thrown onto the pitch perimeter this season have been about half a dozen plastic bottles and two sticks of celery. Instead of making a mountain out of a molehill, stop selling anything in plastic bottles on the concourse and don't give crates of free celery away.
If you can't tell the difference between organised mass protest and behaving like a **** then it explains a lot and you're a lost cause. If chucking stuff isn't nipped in the bud now, whilst it's relatively harmless it'll become commonplace and it's only a matter of time before it's coins, glass, or worse. You don't just wait for someone to get hurt and the club gets a fine or spectator ban before you start to do something.
If the club clamp down too hard on this occasion then they will have no other option but to do the same for a mass organised protest. Lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Entire point of mass protest is that if they do ban everybody taking that kind of action then they lose their revenue and the club goes bankrupt. - its how it works. They have CCTV, if you encroach/chuck stuff you can be found and a temp ban for a first offence isn't exactly heavy handed. Don't heed the warning and do it again then ban for life. Its hardly heavy handed. Ripping seats out should be a ban and prosecution for criminal damage. Violent offences should be dealt with by being criminally prosecuted as well as bans. It's not really a lot to ask folk to behave in public like they're, well - supposed to behave in public.
Mass protest ? It was throwing stuff on the field to disrupt the game. So this is down to what is thrown on the pitch and by whom and not the actual act of throwing objects ? Tell me, throughout all the years of football violence you quoted earlier, pre Taylor report, how many people, players, officials or even fans have been injured in that time by fans throwing objects on the field during play at Hull City games ? I cannot recall any. Was it you who posted about its only a matter of time before someone is stabbed at a City game ? I've often said that the safest place in the city on a Saturday afternoon is inside or around the stadium. I cannot recall any stabbings, robberies or even one case of anyone carrying an offensive weapon at or during a City game. Seen plenty else where in the city and over a very long period of time. Some people see hysteria. Some people see it for what it is.
Who said it was just Hull city or even just football? It will affect Hull city and more widely football if it isn't dealt with by individual clubs though. The Just City or Just football argument is only used to deflect attempts to get the issue recognised. It's not hysteria, it's ****ty behaviour that's re-emerging and by dismissing it you're clearly not seeing anything 'for what it is'. And no, I didn't forecast stabbings - we're not there at the moment. Not yet anyway. . And yeah, I do remember seeing the odd lino hit, and plenty of fans too.
You've seen fans hit by objects thrown on the pitch have you ? What were those fans doing on the pitch ?