This is what I do not get about the whole reviewing of the incident. They had a running battle. Zlatan then decided to stamp on Mings (I think he may have glanced his side). Mings responded in kind with a bit more on it by going for his head. Then Zlatan decided to take retribution for the retribution by aiming an elbow at him. He even made additional room to make sure he nailed it. Both clearly at fault but for me if anyone is getting a longer ban it should be Zlatan - there were several incidents. Lets not forget he had already done a bit WWE on him earlier. He didn't like the attention he was getting off Mings and took matters into his own hands. Fair enough but if you cross the line you have to accept the punishment. Mings should not have tried to stamp on his head of course, but being truthful at all levels of football, there is jungle law where you give as good as you get. Its not right but the worst thing you can do with Zlatan is let him bully you. Mings did a fairly effective job on him.
This is the issue with refs like Oliver and Clattenburg. They claim to let the game flow, but achieve the opposite. If they don't clamp down on ****ty behaviour, then it encourages others to join in. They lose control of games and you end up with crap like this happening. Should players be able to control themselves and act like adults? Of course. Does that mean that the officials shouldn't deal with it when they cross the line? No.
It's a different occasion. I'd go for shisha and have it with a meal with mates or a bird. A zoot is for the garden while the missus glares disapprovingly. Apple and Mint for me.
They may invite you try the game out. 'Come on, give it a try, you might be surprised'. If you take my advice, I would politely decline. Unless, of course, you fancy a couple of weeks off work?
At first I thought the Mings stamp was accidental but just before it he looks directly at Ibrahimovic's head. Be amazed if he's not given something like 7/8 games. Disgusting to be honest.
Ibra has got a 3 match ban ... at least the FA are consistent in determining that Ibra's flying elbow was no more dangerous than Robert Huth's potentially career ending tug on Fellaini's barnet at OT last season ...
He meant it for sure. So did Zlatan. Zlatan deliberately stamps down aiming it behind where his foot was going to land naturally after looking at Mings on the floor. Mings then clearly thinks "ah so its like that" and looks down and aims one back at a more dangerous area. Then Zlatan aims an elbow at Mings. It is an absolute joke if Mings gets more than Zlatan. How can it possibly be considered less dangerous to stamp on someones side and elbow them in the head as opposed to aiming a stamps at someones head? All three are dangerous. The stamp from Zlatan less but nonetheless dangerous and in reality the escalation point for the subsequent violence. The officials could have nipped it all in the bud before that point though. Anyone watching the game could see they were heading for the dark arts. Zlatan has got away ridiculously lightly here with 3 games.
Don't you get an additional match for each ban or does that only apply to similar ones? Ibrahimovic got one for getting five yellows earlier in the season.
I remember when people on here were claiming that the hair tug was just as bad as the elbow Fellaini planted on Huth's chin. I imagine that the Spurs fans in question have had a rethink on that one.
You've confused me. Mings stamped on Ibrahimovic's head and Ibrahimovic elbowed Mings in the face in retaliation. Mings deserves a massive ban and Ibrahimovic deserves(deserved) the standard 3 game ban.
Why? Mings only retaliated to Ibra attempting to stamp on him. If Ibra is getting 3 for an elbow in the head, why should Mings get more for a stamp on the head? Its no more dangerous. Plus the FA have just ignored that Ibra also chucked him over like it was WWE and aimed a stamp at Mings in the same incident where Mings connected with his head. Neither ended up being hurt by either incident but they could have been. Unless we are now saying deliberate elbows are not as dangerous? I reckon Pedro Mendes would disagree.
I didn't see the game, i've only seen the 2 clips on twitter. Did Ibrahimovic stamp on Mings earlier on in the game then? Are you joking by the way? A stamp on the head is about 1000% times more dangerous than an elbow.
Correct. If Mings had done that in an RFU game he'd be banned for several months. There's no place for deliberate head stamping in either sport. It's cowardly, and potentially very dangerous.
Ibrahimovic threw Mings to the ground earlier, then lectured the ref. Got nothing. Picked up a yellow later, then tried to stamp on Mings just before he got stamped on. Same move. Wasn't on his head, though.
I don't elbows with enough force can do some serious damage. You can end up like Mendes having your jaw wired, or eye sockets depressed basically endangering your sight. It may be slightly more dangerous what Mings did but not a lot. Yeah the clips on twitter all start from Mings stamping on Ibra. Go back 10seconds and it becomes clear it's in response to Ibra own deliberate stamp. Add in the WWE stuff earlier and it seems comical that Mings is getting hammered for one, albeit dangerous, act. While Ibra is running sound committing two dangerous acts plus a bit of judo. Sends out a really bad message and looks like bias towards the "name"