More nonsense from one of the few discredited people on here. It's not like the Premier League hand out the TV money at the start of the season. A seller will make more money buy selling a mid table Premier League club than owning a club dropping through the leagues or offering to sell it for £1 to somebody who will not buy it.
Well the FA committee seem to think so because they rejected any business case for changing the name. If the Allams are about business then why buy the club in the first place. Cue: more irrational panic when seeing the corner he's painted himself in.
Has …. ever posted anything that is accurate? From his relatives being hospitalised after an attack at Anfield to claiming that Allam’s had played CTWD every step of the way... to this latest bullshit – he must have THE lowest strike rate of any poster – including Patty. I’d suggest he’s socially repugnant too, splits his spare time between football rumours.com (or whatever that **** is called), some sort of turgid, car chase dogged, American cop show and fantasising about some conventionally good looking woman in an uncoventional way (perhaps has wears a watch with her scantily clad face on it). Doing that all inbetween some sort of perfunctory job (which actually makes him feel superior), doing up computers (naturally, and what also makes him feel superior) and posting hysterical **** on here (which again gives him some sort of feeling of superiority).
Well said Dutch, and I totally agree with you, although not sure about the City needs to fail for success for some and blame of some, not sure who you mean by that. Sadly some are attempting to paint others into corners, which is pretty childish. I still think the best outcome for us is the Family forget the name change, Dr Allam steps down and Ehab takes over. At this moment I'd even be ok with Ehab engaging with some of the CTWD activists, although I'd hope if this scenario was a possibility CTWD would disband with dignity, we could draw a line under it all and just move on and upwards. I still do not understand why anyone would want the club to fail in any way.
You were determined to make that third error of judgment, weren't you. I did not make a literal or direct quote, it was simply pointing out that your comments were judgmental, giving a semblance of direction which was inappropriate. I made the 'we' remark as it came across that you thought yourself to be speaking with more substance than a day-to-day poster and it would appear I was right. This is what confuses me about your (CTWD) position; I agree that AA has frequently resorted to insults in pursuing his lie over the reasons for the name-change, but why does it follow that CTWD must use insults to fully expose that lie - telling the truth about someone, in a measured and calm manner cannot be considered as insulting them. to resort to insults would be foolish and unnecessary, to not maximise awareness of the lie is negligent. Pull down his house of lies and, if he is to rebuild and continue as the owner, let him or his family rebuild the relationship on a foundation of honesty and trust.
I can only repeat that I have asked no one to attack him personally. I have said that his key lie should be attacked and if that reflects badly on him then so-be-it. Attacking his marketing strategy hasn't exactly enhanced his business credentials, has it? I understand your second point and mean no malice with my comparison to the infamous Basil; but it reads how it reads.
But what actually FACTUAL evidence can be produced to expose these supposed lies in a "calm and measured manner"? As from what I've read, you've merely got subjective opinion, unsubstantiated 'fact' and assumption to base your expose on haven't you? You're advocating that the fans group start chucking around potential libellous comments in pursuit of bringing down "his house of lies", which smacks of a vindictive agenda against the man himself, as opposed to what the group have been fighting for which is the right to keep the clubs name. From what I've seen CTWD have conducted their campaign in a very measured way and have ultimately been successful and they should be applauded for that. If you want to discredit the man himself, why don't you put your own cock on the block mate and write a blog 'exposing' the truth, and circulate it around the net / press?
I think, to a large extent, we're doing that already. Many of the claims made have been disputed in our FA submission and in our blogs/releases etc, we've just gone quiet over the past month due to everything being in the hands of the FA. Obviously that situation can't now continue, as we're about to start campaigning for people to reject the the name change in the upcoming ballot. I suspect you might be a bit happier with the stuff we're about to put out, though we are very conscious of the Allam's desire to make this a vote of confidence, rather than a name change vote and that will be reflected in the tone of our campaign.
This, specially the last sentence. I'd be intrigued to hear you answer the closing question Fez, there's no reason you can't do this yourself.
One thing I've just noticed on today's HDM article, that makes this even more of a farce. The club have until Monday to file any additional submissions to the FA, the vote is being done next week, so will have absolutely no bearing on the FA Council vote. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...tory-20827464-detail/story.html#ixzz2wOvQDdXD
Only one place you can lay the blame and that's the person who orchestrated it all. Mr Allam is at fault for all this. He didn't have to do all this. He could've taken the council's verdict on the chin and enjoyed this season, in the knowledge he was well liked by all City fans. But no he's decided to make an awful campaign up out of nothing and he's divided the fans. The fans haven't done anything wrong. We've been living off scraps of information for 8 months & had blackmail & insults aimed at us throughout.
I see from the HDM piece the Allams are doing all they can to turn the ballot into a vote of confidence in them. Why don't they go the whole way and say vote for us or if not we'll kill a puppy.
This season pass ballot is obviously going to turn into a vote of support or not for the Allams. If it's a loaded question like 'Do you 100% support the Allam Family in everything they do for Hull City? 'Yes or No?' If it's a question like that then I won't be voting. I support Allams in certain ways, but 100%. Does anyone have any information on the ballot? I thought the details where supposed to be released yesterday?
"At the moment, we genuinely believe there will be a silent majority who want to give the club the opportunity to succeed and become sustainable in the Premier League." We all want that. That's not the question. They're mental.
They were always going to try and make this a vote of confidence, rather than a vote on a name change, as they had zero chance of winning the latter. This self evidently has nothing to do with the FA Council vote, which will now almost certainly ratify the recommendation of the Membership Committee and block the name change. I can only assume that they will use this vote in some form of legal challenge, as it's pretty much useless for anything else.
To be announced in the next 24 hours, according to the HDM. Though I don't have definite information, I am led to believe that it will not be a yes/no question.
I have no confidence in the Allams coming up with a sensible question for the vote because they seem to get most things wrong. It would have made more sense to have consulted fans before the name change application to the FA not after they were told that the FA committee is against it. Why did Ehab have to criticise Nigel Pearson in last weeks interview? Why should they announce they will sell when the obvious happens? I know they think it would sway the vote but there's only a few people in Hull that are that weak minded. Now if they try to sell then they will get screwed on the price.
