lol spot on, well apart from the board only numbers 1800 not 18000. Interesting you think he should just back down now, when if the final decision went the other way (as unlikely as that is sadly) CTWD would/will NOT have backed down either. One rule for him, another for CTWD?
No, it wasn't anyone's in particular,as there have been many who understand the basic truth of it, me included. I agree, that from the releases available to us, it would appear that the business case they presented was inadequate, but, as you say, it would be, wouldn't it. Let me ask you and OLM a straight question: you have both now made open comment (highlighted) about the true reason for the name-change, it isn't secret you are both members of the CTWD committee, so why your reluctance to bring the real issue to the public domain in a robust, but measured manner? If it is of no importance, why do you both mention it. I find the whole point puzzling and without purpose.
I would think the FA would take such things on board, but they can only really look at the application as it is presented. Opposition focusing on something that's not in the application would waste time that could be better spent pointing out the holes in the argument that's been offered.
The council spat has been mentioned by CTWD in a robust and measured manner. You just choose to keep ignoring that fact.
But what I really want to know is why CTWD consistently fail to expose his lies, deceit and manipulation.
Apart from the few scaredandconfused types we have on this forum who buy into Allamâs threats and fatalism (these are prevalent throughout society anyway - bouncing from moral panic to panic - living lives scathed with ignorance and fear) itâs interesting to see that none of Happy Tigerâs idiot bum-chums have also been leaping to the defence of their lord and master throughout the last 24 hrs. Seemingly, or from what I've read, they must have lapsed into the much mentioned 'silent majority'. As Iâve stated on this forum before, the most offensive behaviour of some of these 5th Columnists was not to hold a different opinion to the majority and I. It wasn't the fact they were prepared to sell our club's history for the promises of a liar. Nor even was it the gross stupidity, absence of fact and sheep like devotion their cause was based on. For me, the most offensive was the unfounded, uncalled for accusations/attacks made on CTWD (an unpaid fansâ group) and their publicly known members (some even being named on here) by people who remain anonymous. Simply cowardly and pathetic. Given these traits, no wonder they fall over themselves defending this regime.
We know the FA have been appraised, as we have seen the submission and i think the FA can cope with assessing commercial business plans that are associated with football; you might recall it is their chosen field of expertise. Perhaps you should consider re-reading my posts as I speak of the public-domain, those folk who don't read the submissions or these boards, but would pick up on a well structured argument that the media can respond to. It has not, read the response to DMD. Me too!
Same rule, he expressed an opinion that I stop supporting Hull City and give my seat to somebody who supports Hull Tigers. I expressed my opinion that if the decision to refuse the name change application he stays as owner and builds on what he's achieved. Just as I made the decision to ignore his request he can ignore mine.
Pleased you will still be going to games obi..As will others. That's the best bit for me The FA said no. AA should accept it and find other ways to bring in more money. Simple as that .
A War Poem written in 1914 (is this poetic licence)? BREAKFAST We ate our breakfast lying on our backs Because the shells were screeching overhead. I bet a rasher to a loaf of bread That Hull United would beat Halifax When Jimmy Stainthorpe played full-back instead of Billy Bradford. Ginger raised his head And cursed, and took the bet, and dropt back dead. We ate our breakfast lying on our backs Because the shells were screeching overhead. Wilfrid Wilson Gibson
I'll give you a straight answer. We have taken his public reasons for the name change and answered them. Apart from a few dozen individuals over the social media in Hull nobody thinks that Hull Tigers will open the way to untold wealth for the football club. Even Ehab realises that by building up expectations of a far eastern windfall he's making a rod for his own back. The reason, for CTWD for remaining Hull City, is we are a community, stretching back to 1904, and Hull City is our identity. For me personally we (Hull City supporters) are the most important thing about the campaign, our history, our struggles, our successes and our identity. Not Assem Allam's spat with the council, or his tantrums, or his bullying. Its about us, not him. I think we've done that well considering the provocation we've had. You may not agree but when this is all over, which it will be one day, and the history of the campaign is written it will be about the supporters, the banners, the flags, the badges, City Till I Die at 19:04, the giant flag, the video and last but not least our submission to the FA. And so it should be.
He really is a petulant and arrogant clown. If he has any sense he'll swallow his pride, accept that he's got this wrong and build bridges with the supporters. The whole issue is tiresome for everyone but Allam just won't let it lie. His conduct through the saga has left much to be desired and he has come across as a man with little integrity. I never wanted to see him leave despite not agreeing with the name change but his petulant, conceited outbursts are an embarrassment to the club and the people who support it. It's cringeworthy to see him spit his dummy out and strut around as if he is beyond question. The man is a loose cannon who by the day is making himself look less capable of running a football club rationally.
I get the impression that is akin to the royal we. You may be bold, no permissions required on here; it was always going to work as they had no valid argument, but this is only a symptom of a deeper malaise. Let's see where this leads next. The problem is the man, not a piss-poor red-herring of a marketing strategy. Before you come back with one of your smart-arse. 'get-back-in-your-box' style remarks, try remembering this is a discussion board.
I agree that the campaign has been successful in its primary objective and I agree that the history of the campaign will read as you say; I find it daft that you are all being so needlessly defensive about things I am not questioning. I find it confusing that you will deal with the man's dishonest strategy on anonymous forums and in the FA submission, but you will not confront him with it in the well read media opportunities available to you.
fire sale this summer >? selling the players with value and allowing the manager to leave ... we are left with clemance in charge .. no money for players and allams get back £20 mill of the money and take the rest in tv money ... they walk away with money recovered and happy .. we are left with ... what ? especially if they offer it to the supporters group for £1 ... alternative streams of income ?.... get thinking quick and provide them with figures .. before april .. that will be their next move ... remember they are not football people ... they just want their money back which they can do within a summer
