Dai was out of line for calling Ivor plastic, I totally agree with you, but where does it stop, those who call Dai all names under the sun? I have been guilty of that too. If I was to ban Dai right now for calling Ivor plastic, then I would be banning a lot more than just Dai for similar instances. I am not up for banning 50% of the members here right now, hence why I have asked for people not to retaliate, and just let us know, that way those who are at the root cause get banned, but whilst people get involved, I am not bothering. Because there is just no point.
As for ignoring Dai, I have tried it myself, it didn't work, but whilst people respond to him in the manner that they do, then insults will go flying around and it puts us mods in a pretty difficult situation, as not all the time is Dai the one starting with the insults. It may well stem from other topics, but we are not here full time, and we don't see everything that goes on between two users.
But like Dai is out of order by having a go at Ivor, others out of order insulting Dai other times. So where does it end? When we ban every member for insulting, or when people actually give us the chance to do our job without interfearing or asking for us to do something, or getting involved themselves. I have modded quite a bit, and the only way for things to work, is if the community is willing to listen and trust those who are wanting to help, in a way they think will work.
I mod my own way, I won't get involved in tit for tat crap, because your grown ups. And until people stop getting themselves involved, it won't get any better. The betterment of this forum starts with the me and you, its all well and good blaming mods, but whilst your all getting involved in tit for tat discussions, insults and all that stuff, then it is never going to get any better.
So like I said in the topic I put up about a new start, do not get involved, just PM me and I will sort it. But what has happened, people have got involved.
What is easier, banning 1 person who insults, or trying to figure out who to ban when 10 people have sent insults flying around? I know which I prefer.