1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

F1 2023 SEASON: NEWS - RUMOURS

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by ched999uk, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    1,422
    May have missed it but haven't seen any comments about Ross stepping down.
    I think his contribution to F1 over the years has been a highlight. He has been a remarkable team boss and has been a significant voice on the direction towards the next phase. F1 is losing an experience that has been significant, measured, intelligent. Almost a father figure to the paddock. I seem to recall he went fishing for a few years and guess he will be doing much the same again. There comes a time to step back and cruise, he has earned the right.
    Wish him all the best.
     
    #41
    TopClass, duggie2000 and ched999uk like this.
  2. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,980
    Likes Received:
    2,145
    There can't be many people who have risen through the f1 ranks, to team boss, team owner, winning a world championship, then steering the way forward for future F1.
    Very talented and skilled bloke. He will be missed in the paddock. I hope he catches many fish in the coming years :)
     
    #42
    Justjazz and duggie2000 like this.
  3. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,613
    Likes Received:
    3,185
    Couldn’t agree more - Ross Brawn is very much an F1 father figure and without his common sense and wisdom, I do wonder where Liberty may take this.

    A proper F1 legend and I hope he can come back in some capacity after some time away fishing.
     
    #43
    Justjazz and ched999uk like this.
  4. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    24,143
    Likes Received:
    14,856
    Brawn to Ferrari ?

    Bah .

    He was part of a brilliant set up .

    Keep the memories & enjoy your retirement
     
    #44
    push, Justjazz and ched999uk like this.
  5. Sportista

    Sportista Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    394
    I don’t see it - certainly no more than as a consultant.
     
    #45
  6. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    1,422
    Who suggested Ferrari? I think this is was his final stint and he is retiring properly, if his mind will allow.
    Just decided to see what Paddy Lowe has been doing. Seems he set up a synthetic fuel company back in 2020.
     
    #46
  7. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    24,143
    Likes Received:
    14,856
    I suggested Ferrari .

    And I think he will go there .

    im not saying he should , but it’s what I think he will do .
     
    #47
  8. push

    push Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2021
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    235
    Gee, hope that you`re right,Number 1.But I also really do agree with you`re previous post that he was part of a brilliant setup and to keep the memories and leave it at that.
     
    #48
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2022
    Number 1 Jasper likes this.
  9. Justjazz

    Justjazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    1,422
    I hope he doesn't, his record is almost unblemished, if not unblemished. Would be an interesting appointment but Ferrari are going to need more time to fix their fundamental problems. The suggestion of consultant is a possibility i guess, likely would pay well. They have two good drivers, in my opinion, albeit a few mistakes. It is the team that needs turning into a competitive machine. It is interesting that no replacement has yet been announced for Binotto, now is crucial to make best use of the winter break. I guess an announcement will be forthcoming before long.
     
    #49
  10. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    24,143
    Likes Received:
    14,856
    I don’t think he will either , and this article from Pitpass.com. Seems to back those who think he will go and chill out .


    As he retires from his F1 MD role, Ross Brawn dismisses speculation linking him with a return to Ferrari.

    Abu Dhabi marked Ross Brawn's last race as F1's Managing Director of Motorsports, but even as the Briton joined his colleagues on the grid for the national anthem there were rumours doing the rounds that he might be making a sensational return to Ferrari.

    With Ferrari once again managing to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory there has been speculation over Mattia Binotto's future, so much so that the Italian was forced to call on chairman John Elkann to issue a statement denying reports in the Italian media ahead of the season finale.

    Nonetheless, last week the speculation intensified, with a number of leading Italian publications claiming that Binotto was leaving the company almost with immediate effect.


    Though Alfa Romeo boss, Frederick Vasseur, was initially linked with the role, in some circles Ross Brawn - an integral part of the 'dream team' that led Ferrari to numerous titles in the early 2000s - was seen as favourite.

    In his farewell briefing for the official F1 website however, Brawn has dismissed the speculation, insisting that his work in F1 is done and that in future he will merely watch the sport from the comfort of his sofa.

    "I've loved everything I've done in the last few years," he writes. "I'd moved away from wanting to be part of a team, I decided I'd done enough of that! And this was the only thing that could have possibly appealed. I've been very fortunate to have been given the opportunity by Liberty and it was a labour of love.

    "Now is the right time for me to retire," he adds. "We have done the bulk of the work, and we are in a consolidation period now. There's a new car coming in 2026, but that's four years away, quite distant for me, so it's better the next group of people take on that mantle.

    "I believe I'm leaving F1 in a great place," he insists, though many long-standing fans might disagree.

    "I've loved almost every minute of my 46-year career and I've been fortunate to have worked with many great teams, great drivers and great people. I wouldn't have changed a thing. One certainty is that without my wife and family support I couldn't have done it and I wouldn't have wanted to do it.

    "I will now watch F1 from my sofa, cheering and cursing as an F1 fan, pleased that the sport is in a fantastic place and has such a fantastic future."

    The Briton, who, other than Ferrari, enjoyed title winning success with Benetton and his own team, before going on to lay the foundations at Mercedes, believes that under Liberty Media the sport has made great progress.

    "I'm pleased with where we've got to," he writes." I think there's been real change in the last six years since I joined the management team, and I feel happy about that. F1 today is as strong as it's ever been.

    "Liberty knew about the economics of F1, but they didn't know so much about F1 as a sport and that side of the business when they first became involved. They were smart enough to put Chase Carey in charge. Despite not being an experienced F1 veteran, he grasped the business and the sport quickly.

    "I was approached by Liberty as someone with F1 experience, something they needed in the beginning. I was interested, but only if we could tackle the development of the sport from a different perspective - how do we improve the racing? I think we have succeeded. We've built a great team and I'm really pleased with what we have achieved. We've set F1 on a new path.

    "The cost cap has created an environment where you have a limited spend and the smartest people win. The margins from the front to the back are going to be much tighter. I think the cost cap is a very significant step for F1. It's got bugs to iron out but considering the complexity of introducing such a system, it's fantastic what the team at F1 and the FIA have achieved since it was introduced last year.

    "The governance system has been improved," he adds. "We now have much more flexibility and don't need all the teams to agree for the sport to make changes and go forward. As long as we get eight teams to agree, we can get things done in the short term.

    "With five teams and the FIA and F1, we can get things done in the long term. We don't have the constraint of the old governance system and there are now lots of things we've moved in the right direction which has made this sport function so much better than it did before.

    "On the sporting regulations, we've had an open mind about how we should develop the race weekend format.

    "There are already a lot of good things in F1. I happen to think the current qualifying spec is pretty good. Three-stage qualifying keeps people engaged for the whole time. It's exciting and it occasionally throws up a few variables.

    "The Sprint was an initiative which seems to have worked. We're expanding to six Sprints next year. I don't know what will be the optimum number we will settle at long term. Some argue we should have it at every race. We'll see if that is how it evolves. The Sprint has certainly livened up the whole weekend and gives us a full three days of action.

    "The technical regulations were a big change," he admits. "We came at the regulations with a fresh view. The priority was building a better racing car because that has never been a priority in the past, which was one of my frustrations.

    "In the past, the teams were allowed to develop the car regulations. The FIA's priority was safety, making sure the speed of the cars was always within a reasonable range. They never had the resource to look at how you design a racing car - it was left to the teams to do that work. With the best will in the world, the teams won't have raceability as a priority.

    We created a group whose priority was to build a better racing car, that can race another car in close proximity, is consistent to drive, and doesn't have bits fall off if there are touches.

    "The mind-set came from a different direction: raceability, and that will be the priority in the future - it's one of the changes to the mind-set of F1 that I'm really pleased about.

    "It was a huge thrill for me when I saw the 2022 cars first race and we experienced two or three cars racing alongside each other - we hadn't often seen that before. Now you can run hard behind another car for several laps without issues."

    Fact is, the regulations overhaul wasn't the great success Brawn and his buddies would have us believe. Sure, cars can now follow more closely, but the final move, the overtake, still, in the majority of cases, requires DRS, a gimmick that in the old days Brawn would have abhorred.

    Still, for now it's popular with the Drive to Survivegeneration, so Ross can head to his sofa feeling it's a job well done.





     
    #50
    Justjazz likes this.

  11. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    38,531
    Likes Received:
    40,070
    Jost Capito has left Williams. Make of that what you will. Tech director, Demaison going too.
     
    #51
  12. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,980
    Likes Received:
    2,145
    Sounds like 'silly season' for management. Sounds like Vasseur is going to Ferrari ( reported he bought a house near Maranello), so now we have vacancies at Alfa and Williams!
     
    #52
  13. Sportista

    Sportista Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    394
    Not a massive fan of JC, but the press release suggests he was anyhow due to retire prior to taking on this appointment. Having said that - given the timing of the announcement - I’m not sure I really believe that’s what is going on here. His long history with VW and the presumed vacancy at Sauber-to-be-Audi suggests to me we’ll see him popping up there in some form next year.
     
    #53
    ched999uk likes this.
  14. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,613
    Likes Received:
    3,185
    Andreas Seidl joining Sauber/Audi project.

    What a blow for McLaren- gutted.

    Id love them to get Binotto now, but if they get this wrong they could become the next Williams :(
     
    #54
  15. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    24,143
    Likes Received:
    14,856
    If Binotto does go to McLaren , he might do well . I don’t expect he will have 1/2 the political crap he had to clear deal with at Ferrari .
     
    #55
    ched999uk likes this.
  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    115,702
    Likes Received:
    27,602
    I can see ferrari imploding here.

    I think they've gone to please le clerc more than anything but how can the new guy have real authority over the various camps and self interests in the ferrari development team?

    As for the rest? Well it's now December so development plans and designs are already at some level of advancement so there's changes seem to be big money long term driven like seidl but the current teams being shafted are going to suffer a lot in their winter development cycle.

    Now is the crucial months where a wrong turn is locked in by budget, however in general the rules are established and plans would be firmly advanced by the teams looking to copy other :bandit:
     
    #56
  17. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,613
    Likes Received:
    3,185
    Agree 100%- they’ve picked Le Clerc as the golden boy, it’s not an easy position for Carlos Sainz.

    Interesting to see how it all plays out.

    I think McLaren will come under huge pressure from Norris and potential suitors for him if they don’t turn things around within the next couple of years.
     
    #57
  18. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,980
    Likes Received:
    2,145
    Maybe this is why McLaren signed Norris up for so long, 4 years I think!
     
    #58
  19. Sportista

    Sportista Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    394
    To give some credit to Ferrari, I think this is something they’ve learned after ‘99 and ‘08 - they were pretty quick to swing behind Leclerc and I suspect they would do the same for Sainz if he proves faster.
     
    #59
  20. Sportista

    Sportista Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    394
    Ha, I was thinking about that Seidel and how I’d not considered the same for him, as I wrote about Capito earlier! Really didn’t see that coming though - I am a Seidel fan, can’t see what a good outcome for McLaren is from here.

    Update: So I see this is has been in the works for a while and has been precipitated by Binotto leaving, triggering an early vacancy at Sauber, who Seidel was eventually going to join. McLaren have hired Andrea Stella and then released Seidel. Not really clear to me what experience Andrea has that has marked him out for the role, although he does at least have experience of the early 2000’s Ferrari winning machine.
     
    #60
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2022

Share This Page