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F1 2014 Season: Lineup's - Rumours - News

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    The thing is that the new engine regs might force their hand, if they don't see Massa as a long-term option then why not put a youngster in the car who can develop with the team?
     
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  2. Forza Bianchi

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    According to Turun Sanomat, Webber is a candidate, along with Hulkenburg and Bianchi - but Massa has three races to save his seat.


     
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  3. Smithers

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    If those figures are true they are crazy - I wince at the pay demands of some drivers but if they are WDCs or proven race winners then Zi understand the argument.
     
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  4. TomTom94

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    Rosberg's talented but not that talented surely? I'd say that money would be for a number 2 driver at a top team.

    ...I think I just answered my own question.
     
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  5. BrightLampShade

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    According to Spanish newspaper El Mundo Deportivo and citing information compiled by Business Book GP 2013 F1 wages -

    1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari €20m
    = Lewis Hamilton Mercedes €20m
    3. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes €16m
    4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing €12m
    5. Nico Rosberg Mercedes €11m
    6. Mark Webber Red Bull Racing €10m
    7. Felipe Massa Ferrari €6m
    8. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus F1 Team €3m
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    the translations always make me luagh, what the **** is a mechanical crime? sounds like the HRT
     
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  7. 51LV3R8RR04

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    They also seem to forget that RBR have a different pay structure to the other teams: 40% retainer and 60% bonus compared with Ferrari and Mercedes which is 70% retainer and 30% bonus (http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/08/how-much-does-an-f1-driver-earn/)

    And tbh Vettel's wage which we see there is very old. That's during the early 2011 period, later into 2011 he was getting 16 million euros after he signed up till 2014. Now he has won another world title and has more clout I highly doubt he is still on 12million but more like 22million now as reported by the German and Austrian media. It's just Seb refuses to reveal his wages out into the open and doesn't have a manager or brand company to take a percentage of it.

    And surprising enough Alonso has gone down from 30 million to 20 million... http://www.crash.net/f1/news/180405/1/f1_2012_driver_salaries_revealed_-_but_who_earns_most.html

    Seems like the Spanish papers just enjoy putting Alonso on top.
     
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  8. Max Whiplash

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    For some reason, Pierce Brosnan in 'Mamma Mia' springs to mind.
     
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  9. Max Whiplash

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    I have no evidence to back this up but my gut feeling is that, having been part of the Mercedes GP project from the beginning, Nico is more likely to want to see it come to fruition: firstly, because he's never been in a better place racing and career-wise than he is now; secondly, because he doesn't seem the type to jump to Ferrari for a bit of glory when surely it will be more satisfying to be a key player in the resurrection of one of motor sport's great marques, assuming that's what happens ;) Thirdly, he has more parity partnering Lewis than he would probably have partnering Alonso.

    Things are finally coming good for him and doubts about his talent are being challenged: why would he risk that?

    Edit: there's another word I might have used here: loyalty. As I said, it's just a gut feeling and, of course, it can be a weakness in a sport like this.
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Renault hopefully will supply 4 teams next year: Red Bull, STR, Lotus & Caterham

     
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  11. Forza Bianchi

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    Massa's pace is better than what it was last year but it's still frustrating when you look at Alonso's performances in the races and see how far away Massa still is. With the car he has this year, one podium in seven races isn't good enough. I'm tired of seeing Massa deliver average performances. Ferrari should be very close to Red Bull in the constructors, but they're already 56 behind after 7 races.

    I'd much rather see Bianchi as Alonso's teammate. He may be inexperienced but he so far he hasn't chocked under pressure, he hasn't caused any collisions and his pace has been great. If Ferrari think it's too early for him, I'd happily welcome Hulkenburg to Ferrari.
     
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  12. Julius Caesar

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    I agree completely, but do Ferrari? Thats the question.
     
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  13. allsaintchris.

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  14. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Is Max's Daddy buying a stake in McLaren?
     
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  15. BrightLampShade

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    Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 2m
    For 2014 8 days of post race testing is proposed. Instead of filming days, straightline and young driver tests
     
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  16. JonnyBaws

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    Confirmed, Webber to quit F1 at the end of the year to go Sports Car Racing.
    Let the fight for the seat alongside Seb begin!
     
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  17. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Boom! Kimi is a shoe in now I think.
     
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  18. tomcat606

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    http://www.markwebber.com/on-the-tr...t-mark-webber-to-contest-le-mans-for-porsche/

    Porsche Press Release: June 27, 2013

    Stuttgart. The Australian Formula 1 pilot Mark Webber has signed a contract with Porsche that extends over several years. From the 2014 season he will compete in Porsche’s new LMP1 sports prototype at the Le Mans 24 Hours and in the sports car World Endurance Championship WEC. The 36-year-old Australian has already raced at Le Mans twice. In 1998 he finished runner-up in the FIA GT Championship at the wheel of a sports prototype. Over the course of his Formula 1 career from 2002 until today, Webber has achieved 36 podium places, nine race victories and has started from pole position eleven times.

    “It’s an honour for me to join Porsche at its return to the top category in Le Mans and in the sports car World Endurance Championship and be part of the team. Porsche has written racing history as a manufacturer and stands for outstanding technology and performance at the highest level,” says Mark Webber. “I’m very much looking forward to this new challenge after my time in Formula 1. Porsche will undoubtedly set itself very high goals. I can hardly wait to pilot one of the fastest sports cars in the
    world.”

    “I’m very pleased to have secured Mark Webber for our LMP1 project as one of the best and most successful Formula 1 pilots of our time,” says Wolfgang Hatz, Board Member for Research and Development at Porsche AG. “Mark is without doubt one of the world’s best race drivers, he has experience at the Le Mans 24 hour race and on top of that he’s been a Porsche enthusiast for many years.”

    “I learned to appreciate Mark’s qualities when we were both involved in Formula 1,” says Fritz Enzinger, Head of LMP1. “He is one of the best pilots I could imagine for our team. I’m absolutely delighted that we have such an experienced and fast regular
    driver onboard from 2014.”

    Competing in the new LMP1 car alongside Mark Webber are the two long-standing Porsche works drivers Timo Bernhard (Germany) and Romain Dumas (France) as well as the ex-Formula 1 test driver Neel Jani (Switzerland). Bernhard and Dumas already joined forces in 2010 to bring home overall victory from the Le Mans 24 hour race. In the years 2007 and 2008, they secured the American Le Mans Series title at the wheel of the RS Spyder LMP2 sports prototype. Neel Jani has contested the LMP1 class since 2010.
     
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  19. El_Bando

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  20. tomcat606

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    I wonder if we could see Buemi in Webbers seat 2014 onwards?
    Most people only consider Kimi and the TR youngsters, but Buemi has a very good relationship with Vettel and is a known quantity.
     
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