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Expand Carrow Road or New Purpose built Stadium??

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by JM Fan, Apr 10, 2013.

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Do you think we should stay at CR

  1. Expand Carrow Road

  2. New Purpose Built Stadium

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  1. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    Increase city stand- which is possible to add 3000 plus 4000 on jarrold - job done
     
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  2. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    oh and. Knock the stupid hotel down and fill in the corner
     
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  3. KIO

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    True, but how much would it cost ? How long would we have a significantly REDUCED capacity while the work is carried out ?
    It was mentioned on Radio Norfolk this morning that it would be possible to add a second tier to the City Stand but would take 18 month's to complete at a cost of approximately £20M. To completely demolish it and start again £35M and I believe that it wouldn't be possible to add another tier to the Jarrold so that would have to be flattened which simply isn't going to happen mate.
     
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  4. KIO

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    Now this I agree with <ok>
     
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  5. ColkOfTheBarclay

    ColkOfTheBarclay Well-Known Member

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    Must say I'm surprised you're the one advocating progressiveness, KIO!
     
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  6. KIO

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    Why ? <confused>
     
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  7. ColkOfTheBarclay

    ColkOfTheBarclay Well-Known Member

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    Well it's the opposite of conservatism! :emoticon-0110-tongu

    That is said with tongue firmly in cheek.
     
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  8. KIO

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    ...and that is different ! <laugh>
     
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  9. The Talking Donkey

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    They said that about the City Stand and it turns out its not true, is it defo right for the Jarrold? I tend to agree that staying put would be the best option, though I do like the stadium at MK Dons.....

    Neither is likely soon according to McNasty
     
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  10. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    I realise finances will win the argument- but the feasibility report was to extend cara rud by 8,000 which was adding to jarrold and redeveloping gw stand- aim to take ground to 35,000 which seemed feasible given population trends etc
     
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    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    What would the capacity of the Jarrold be after the second tier is added? I would think that adding this level could be a fairly speedy operation once the materials were on site. My take is add this tier and move spectators from the Wattling stand to here whilst the new main stand is being constructed. This way we do not lose any capacity.
     
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  12. K E M P

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    I think it would be silly not to at least start planning for it.

    We have a waiting list for season tickets and the extra seats will bring in quite a lot of extra revenue. I know there is an initial expense but it's more of an investment.

    Say the capacity is increase by 10k think how much extra cash that would bring in. Would probably generate about an extra £300-400k per league game in tickets alone. Not including ancillary purchases such as merchandise, food, drink etc...... No brainer for me, probably would add £6-8m a year in income.
     
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  13. DHCanary

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    This has always been my take on it. The Jarrold is meant to have been built with the foundations for another tier, and I suspect it could be done over a summer, particularly if we request the FA let us play the last month of one season, and the first of the next, away from home.

    Once that is done, we can shift all the season ticket holders from the Watling stand up there for a season, giving us 15months or so to knock down and rebuild the Watling to about 12,000 capacity. In all that would bring us up to 35-38,000, which should be enough.
     
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    The new tier on the Jarrold would seem the most realistic possibility until we have a few more years in the PL. New purpose-built grounds seem so soul-less to me.
     
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  15. Home on the range canary

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    I think the new tier on the Jarrold would add approximately 4000
     
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  16. Bath-Canary

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    The only issue with that, and I think it's a good if probably expensive way of doing things, is all that the dressing rooms etc are in the city stand. So would need replacing temporarily.

    Also the likelihood is if tickets are more easily available they won't cost so much. So the gains wouldn't be so much. However when 2 seasons in the premier league will see you gain at least a quater of a billion pounds, that should be less of a concern.

    One thing I'm not keen on are lop sided grounds with one huge stand dwarfing the rest. If we added a second tier to the Jarrold we would have to build a 2 their replacement for the city stand. We may end up with more space than we need.
     
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    I stand by all I said- post 28. The parking situation is getting worse and will only get worser - as my Nanny used to say. I know for a fact that this puts off many potential supporters who live in the County - they would go to a new Stadium but not an enlarged Carrow Road
     
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  18. Puncturedtractortyre

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    Just playing devils advocate here, but if the demand is out stripping supply, wouldn't it just make sense to put the ticket prices (and season tickets) up?

    Just some calculations on the back of a *** packet - assuming 20 games per season and 28000 crowds.

    If the prices went up £10, this would generate 28000 x 10 x 20= £5.6mil per season, without any further expenditure.

    Whereas if we spent £15mil on expansion, which generated 7000 extra seats at say £40, this would bring in £5.6 mil per season. Allowing for interest and disruption, you are looking at least 4 seasons to recoup the investment.

    I know what I would do.
     
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  19. KIO

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    Bloody hell mate football is far too expensive for the ordinary working man already. All clubs should be looking to reduce prices not put them up. That's what makes me so angry, the only ones that benefit from the millions pumped into the EPL are the players who are paid stupid money. I mean we're not far off having a £500k PW player FFS .......... Sod the supporters eh ?
     
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  20. Puncturedtractortyre

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    Chill out chap - just saying on that on paper, expansion isn't the only option that makes fiscal sense.

    Of course I wouldn't want to see that happen, but accountants will have some involvement at some stage.
     
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