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Expand Carrow Road or New Purpose built Stadium??

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by JM Fan, Apr 10, 2013.

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Do you think we should stay at CR

  1. Expand Carrow Road

  2. New Purpose Built Stadium

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  1. stilljaroldcanary

    stilljaroldcanary Well-Known Member

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    Put the away fans in the upper river end then no seats wasted in Jarrold on seperation

    Also stop them pressurising the Lino negating all my hard work!!
     
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  2. JM Fan

    JM Fan Well-Known Member

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    I started this thread in the hope that the vast majority of fans would agree and stop all the bickering and name calling etc of the past few weeks - it seems to have worked and there have been some VERY interesting posts. My favourite is the idea of the 'naughty block' for 'fans' who want to leave early at half time to get their pie/tea/beer etc and then start leaving around 85 minutes to avoid the traffic.

    Thanks everyone. <cheers>
     
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  3. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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  4. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    I did the tour of the ground before the QPR game and was told by the staff that the only improvements being made in the City stand are by the ticket holders as Delia will not spend the money as a new stand development is reasonably imminent.
    And of course, if you are going to increase the capacity, you might as well make the expensive ones.
     
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  5. KIO

    KIO Well-Known Member

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    Bump !

    Now that we're due a bumper windfall is it finally time to expand Carrow Road or forget all the sentimental tosh and move to a new purpose built stadium ?

    Fact: We have the 15th largest average attendance

    Fact: We have the 30th smallest stadium

    Discuss
     
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  6. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I know it goes against the grain for many but a new stadium that offers easy and quick access to either the A11 or A47 should be strongly considered. Where? Not sure. The Showground is always mentioned but there could be other sites off the A47 bypass or A11 towards Mulbarton.

    Living in Dereham some years ago we had several options, all of which were just dreadful on Saturday afternoons, after the game. (Sunday and midweek games were better but still sometimes not so easy)

    1. Car - quick and easy to get to the city, then find a parking space. Okay, i was lucky that I worked for Anglian Water so their car park was a good option. However, getting back out of the city was a nightmare.

    2. Park and Ride - I tried this once, and once only. Again so easy to get to the game but of course the buses get caught up in the traffic after the game too. It actually took longer to get out of the city by this option.

    3. Train - No trains from East Dereham so the alternative was to go to either Attleborough or Wymondham. Decent access by road to both and an easy drive back to Dereham. However, the rail company never put on enough carriages on a Saturday evening so the short rail journey was pretty horrific too, like playing sardines. The journey was also sometimes made a bit worse with a few drunken fans getting aggressive with opposing fans. No trains after midweek games, so this was a 3pm or earlier kick off option only.
     
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  7. THURNBY YELLOW

    THURNBY YELLOW Well-Known Member

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    if as Longsight suggests we could extend fairly easily to 37,000 that would seem to me to be the ideal size. One of the beauties of the current capacity is that it is always full and that is a great testament to the fans and the club as a whole. While it is good in show biz to leave the audience wanting more it does have frustrations for people like me who would love to watch a handful of games per season but cannot turn up casually like the old days. Maybe the additional capacity would allow such opportunities once again although I appreciate the reasons for the control. I don't think that a brand new stadium would be a good move for us Carrow Road has too much affection and historical significance for not just us but the true football lovers and a new plastic stadium would never compete with that.
     
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  8. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Does a new stadium have to be the same as those at Derby, Southampton, Leicester etc? It could easily be designed to be no different to what we have now, just somewhere else.
     
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  9. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    I want to have a pint or 3 at the jubilee before sauntering down to Carrow road anything else is unthinkable in my world
     
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  10. JM Fan

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    I would still say let's expand CR - NOT easy I know, but please let's explore that possibility first.
     
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  11. THURNBY YELLOW

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    Well I am sure it would be possible Thai but the architects all seem to work off the one template these days and to add to oyur examples above there is Britannia at Stoke, Riverside Boro, Bolton's and Sunderland's. It is like modern day arcades, you could be anywhere and I would hate for Carrow Road to be lost. Sentimentality for me wins the day every time.
     
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  12. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    True, all I was saying that it doesn't have to be the case. DM or whoever would dictate the requirements as the paying customer - sod the inconvenience for the architect who might have to practice what he has learned and not just produced a photocopied plan of the SOL
     
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  13. THURNBY YELLOW

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    Agree with you totally mate but I would imagine that there is one very good reason why they are all the same and it comes down to cost. Insert the word bespoke as myou suggest and the cost spirals and I would bet a reasonable wager that this is the root cause of the monotonous design.
     
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  14. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Must admit that I had not taken that in to account. You may well be right.
     
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  15. Home on the range canary

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    It seems that the design would have to incredible to overcome a souless location for me - there are several great stadiums in ****e locations and I find it rather sad to have to take a bus to the middle of nowhere that often has or appears to have no connection to the city that founded the team
     
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  16. THURNBY YELLOW

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    To me great stadiums create great atmospheres and that means by definition they have to be in the City (or town) itself. The worst example (or best) if you like was Coventry City. O.K. Highfield Road was a veritable dump but having got a brand new state of the art stadium in the Ricoh it has all gone horribly Pete Tong, to the point where because of a financial dispute they don't even play there and their 'home' games are at Northampton. That sums everything up for me, what a disaster!
     
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  17. KIO

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    Well I've long been an advocate of re-locating to the showground at Costessey. Perfect location on the outskirts of the City, easy access to both the A47 and A11 loads of space for a Super 40k capacity Stadium, big car parks and a stone's throw from the Park and Ride, it's a no-brainer if you ask me. And the funding ? Well Carrow Road is a prime NR1 location and would sell for millions, I bet we'd even have change for a new centre back :)

    Get it done Mr McNally <ok>
     
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  18. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    **** that - I'd be devastated - lets homogenize everything and all be the same why a horrible image of the future
     
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    We could knock all the listed buildings down too and have nice shiny ones too- get rid of the cathedral and stick a concrete monstrosity in its place -
     
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  20. KIO

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    You can't stand in the way of progress forever Longsight, fact is we've outgrown Carrow Road and with the population set to rise even further it would be folly not to re-locate or at the very least expand the current stadium. Fact is I can't see how Carrow Road's capacity could be increased by enough, realistically if we've any ambition at all we need another 10k seats IMO. Either that or campaign for safe standing and rip out the seats in the lower Barclay and Snake Pit. Nobody sits down there anyway <ok>
     
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