I just don't understand Labour's triumphalism .. reminds me of watching Leeds go down 4-0 at home to Liverpool, fight back only to lose 5-4 .. still lost, nothing to show for it .. the one thing this election has shown is just how far behind Labour still are, and that has to be a concern for them Corbyn ran this campaign for HIMSELF, not for Labour, and I'll explain .. last year, when his party leaders voted to oust him by a huge majority, hundreds of thousands of anti-establishment youth signed up to Labour to vote to keep him in .. it was not a vote by this new membership supporting policies, it was simply an up yours vote in this election Corbyn knew he was still vulnerable to being thrown out of Labour if things went bad .. so he targeted the same anti-establishment youth vote by promising one key thing, free tuition for all .. of course, the young dissenters don't bother with the economics of actually delivering this promise, but who cares, let's stick it to the establishment .. Corbyn rode the wave of dissent, divided the country even further, but has ensured it will be hard for his enemies within Labour to get rid of him now funny thing about this result is that the Tories won 43% of the vote, the biggest number of votes by any party since 2001, and this against an increased percentage of voters due to the big rise in youth voters .. so even though more "new" voters came and voted for Corbyn, he still went down with existing voters .. Labour can't rely on promising people everything and anything and ramping up debt, because by 2022 many of these new voters will have learnt a bit more, will be earning more and they will shift Corbyn was very selfish, he protected his party leadership, and this has left his party a long way back .. there won't be a Labour landslide in 2022, that's for sure .. Labour needs to change, but that will need Corbyn to change Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I don't want to get into the political ins & outs. Had enough for now. However .... One point I do however want to question is the notion that this sudden surge in Labour votes from the kids is down to the prospect of free further education (that was on offer to most of us, btw). The bare facts are that less than 50% of them will go on to further education, and of that 50% (I'm being generous), most will have completed their education before any such change in the law would have been introduced. So they're clever, and know they're unlikely to personally benefit. So why vote Labour? I can think of a number of principled reasons that are probably dearer to their heart than self gain. That's more of a tory voter trait, is it not?
for those who do not know the Democratic unionist party are the tories of northern ireland .they are not remnants of labour from years ago.they were formed by Ian Paisley and pledged allegiance to the the Queen.To add to this they also hate Jeremy Corbyn because of his support for the IRA.they will have demands for norn iron but look what Scotland have been given
It was bribery mate Corbyn knew he wasn't ever gonna win, he could have offered them a grand a week to go to uni and the thick ****s would have voted for him
Au contraire! Obviously clever if they get into Uni, and politically aware enough to know there was no personal gain for them. So no way was it a bribe. Unlike the tories who foxed you all with her bribe to reintroduce fox hunting! (Did you see what I did there? Badly. ).
Hi mate, one interesting thing about Corbyn ( I did vote labour this year but I don't blindly follow political allegiances like a football team) is that he does seem a nice guy. I mean think about it, let's have a look at the recent people in the running; - William Hague - Charles Kennedy - Tony Blair - Michael Howard - Gordon Brown - David Cameron - Nick Clegg - Ed Miliband - Theresa May - Jeremy Corbyn I mean they're all absolute snakes in the grass. ****ing look at that list, they're all truely horrible. Now Corbyn is no groundbreaking politician. But he doesn't come across like a run of the mill career politician, tow the party line ****er. Now there's been a lot of Labour v Tory in this thread, but look at that ****ing list. It's all of their fault and Theresa May is just another one of them scum bags. I mean you might have to avidly support Boris Johnson in the next election. Oh, I didn't include Farage in the list because he was never really running for the leadership. But my opinion on him, even though I disagree with almost everything he says, he was good for politics.
Almost entirely agree, but for one exception - Charles Kennedy. People from all parties were unanimous in their liking for him & the respect they had for him. He took the LibDems to their pinnacle, in terms of seats in Westminster, then he was outed as an alcoholic. He could have fought it, pointing at his record & his previous ability to cope, but, to protect his party, he graciously stepped down to the snake-in-the-grass liberal cnuts. You know, the type of tree hugger that would insist that addiction was an illness to get treated etc. Barstewards. One other thing - I listened to him a number of times on tv & radio, both on political & magazine programmes. He was the same guy, lots of great humour & anecdotes, self-deprecating, and continued to be the same even when ousted. A true gentleman of politics. Even if I wanted to vote LD, I most certainly would not after the way they treated him. RIP, Charlie!
