and there's more .....................
Bangor On Dee
Headline McCain states at Bangor preview Diamond King had slight setback & struggling to get him ready in time for Neptune. Likely waits for Aintree
Our version thx to @davidparryracin ( onetime neigh supremo )
Panel
Darren Owen DO
Donald McCain DM
Stewart Machin SM
Paul Jones PJ
John Morris JM
Andy Holding AH
Supreme
PJ not fancy Irving does like Wicklow brave.
AH Irving worthy fav but Wicklow Brave fastest.
SM Vautour strongest stayer.
JM likes WB too.
Don Mc completes the set....Wicklow brave
Arkle :
SM Dodging Bullets hard race last time. Champagne fever Chelt form the best
AH on Arkle champagne fever to beat but Hinterland a great alt on a speed comparison with sire de grugy. Valdez done nothing wrong.
DMc champ fever and dodging bullets the only ones to consider.
John Morris Cham Fever respected but Charles Byrnes Trifolium worth looking at.
PJ : Cham fever too tight a price. Not fancy Dodg bullets
Champ Hurdle
SM My Tent the horse. the fly not solid, new one hurdling a worry.
AH . On soft the fly, MTOY on good, in de screams nowhere
DMc knows how good the fly had to be to beat peddlers that day...will have taken a while to get over it but it was GOOD.
Neptune Novices
AH Faugheen impressive on numbers . Handles any ground. Good cruising speed, jumps well BUT red Sherlock best bet of meet
SM double figure fancy Deputy Dan
John Morris loves Faugheen for Neptune
DM fancies un temp pour tout
RSA
DMc Corrin Wood improving horse. Positive. Smad Place the opposition.
PJ RSA morning assembly
Champion Chase
AH mad keen on Hinterland with a run. 16s.
DMc likes Sire de Grugy.
JLT
JM fancies DJackAdam
DMc each way on Don Cossack
PJ and AH like Sizing Gold.
PJ does not fancy Tarquin de Seoul.
No one fancies Cscar Whiskey.
World Hurdle.
Paul Jones.....Annie power wins. To beat her something has to run to 170+ .
Andy Holding...will Annie get trip? Is Big Bucks finished? Primed for upset. More of That the pick.
Andy Holding : Mahler Beach on soft at 50s is huge in world hurdle
DMc ...no problem with Big Bucks, he should win.
Triumph Hurdle
Paul Jones owns share in Rutherglen . Horse up to 135. Forced to run in Triumph. Outside chance.
Albert Bartlett :
PJ front free in mkt tough to beat but Apache Jack full bro to black jack ketchup decent chance at 25s.
SM likes Urban hymn at price 16s,place prospects.
AH thinks urban hymn is 2016 gold cup horse.For this tho, captain cutter and kings palace
Gold Cup
DMc loves Bobs Worth for this. " sticks his chin out when it matters".
JM agrees.
SM loves Bobs Worth too. Haydock run to be dismissed. Leopardstown the form. If you beat Bob, you'll deserve it.
Stewart Machin. Worst possible result for racing plc is Last Instalment .
AH....Bobs Worth is everything you want in a NH horse.
PJ worried about Silvi Conti jumping so very much a Bob man. Rocky Creek each way.
Handicaps .
PJ Sailors Warn in the county hurdle 33s if he gets in. On the Fringe for fox hunters ( I know it's not a handicap)
DMc Indian Fringe slick jumper. Runs in Kim Muir. Derek O'Connor rides.
DMc : Disport (?) good horse. Doyley Carte each way for mares race. Cinders may run in county but got lots of problems but equal ability. Ok
DMc Overturn trotting away. Cantering next week. Had a hard career but loves being a race horse. Chester Cup?!
JM bumper ....Black Hercules.
SM Wirehead in coral cup. Goodwood Mirage in Fred Winter on better ground in strong run race. Cost400k
Zero Shades of grey big powerful horse to outrun his price in a handicap....according to SM
Dublin Racing Club
Supreme
Andrew Moore goes for Vautour. J
ohnny Ward and Robbie McNamara go for Valseur Lido.
AM agrees that he is the value.
Arkle
No real consensus on the Arkle. Positive words for Trifolium from RM and Rock on Ruby is the class angle if he gets his jumping together.
The Champion Hurdle
Just in time Tony Martin has arrived!
Johnny Ward with a big call. Expects Our Conor to turn the form with Hurricane Fly.
Tony Martin agrees. "He will have been trained for this. He should improve 2 or 3 lengths."
TM, JW - Our Conor RM - The Fly (Sole bit of love for the Fly!)
AM - Jezki E/W
Neptune
RM comes straight out of the gate and makes Faugheen his NAP of the festival. Ridden against him and in work. Machine.
TM very sweet on Rathvinden. Can't see him out of the places. AM and JW both agree.
JW - "Not certain Faugheen runs in this."
RSA.
Irish horses all beating each other. Ballycasey got a soft lead in Leopardstown. Hard to have a strong view.
Champion Chase
Now for The Worst Champion Chase Ever!
RM can't see many faults with SDG.
AM agrees but they will have to take him on.
@CassStephen trying his best to get TM to run Benneficient. TM says won't run.
JW can't see a bet.
Bumper
TM bullish on Gollintilla. Needed the run last day. Better ground will help. Not out of first three.
RM - If ground is soft would ride Vigil. Otherwise Silver Concorde. If he stays nothing else will beat him. Would win listed race over 12f.
JW going against the grain and going for an English horse. If Modus was trained here he'd be a lot shorter.
RM gives a very positive word for Value at Risk. Heard Richard Hughes rides.
JLT
JW very bullish about Felix Yonger. If ground is good he wins as he likes.
RM agrees.
TM very sweet on Oscar Whiskey.
AM agrees but sides with Felix. All about the ground.
Ryanair
TM obviously starts. Ideal race for Benneficient. Won't run if ground is heavy. Hot race but hopeful.
AM quotes C&D form for him.
JW thinks First Lieutenant deserves his place in market. Between him and Beneficient. Edging toward TM's horse.
RM thinks Hidden Cyclone is the bet. Much better left handed.
World Hurdle.
AM - Keeping Annie on side. Very tough for Bucks. Annie could go off 6/4. Zarkander e/w out of Nichols horses. Annie Power is the bet.
JW thinks Annie is an "All Ireland Price". Absolute machine. NRNB 5/2 Fill your boots.
Massive Annie Power love in. RM throws a curve ball and puts up Mount Benbulben. Doesn't like fences. Big price for a place.
TM throws in More of That. AM talks about how much of a farce the mares race is. Quevega should have won a World Hurdle.
Triumph.
TM thinks Le Rocher is the bet of the festival. @CassStephen tries to talk about stats. TM having none of it!
JW - Broughton one for him.
Intrigued by TM's banker.
RM also weighs in behind Le Rocher. Irish have no chance!
AM would be worried about Le Rocher being over the top. Would be very much with Calipto.
RM says Geraghty very sweet on Royal Irish.
Albert Bartlett
JW not sure Briar Hill will be able to pick up Kings Palace. Holes in Briar Hills form.
TM - Further BH goes more he'll come on the bridle. Sprinted up the hill last year. Very sweet on him.
RM - Briar Hill hasn't raced against anything like Kings Palace. 3m an issue. Kings Palace the one.
Gold Cup
RM - Lat Installment I jumped fences for sport last day. If any improvement and ground is easy he'll get into a lovely rhythm and nothing will beat him.
JW loves LI. Bobs Worth one to beat but if LI gets into rhythm he'll be very hard to pass. If LI wins it'll be sporing fairytale.
AM saying Captain Chris is biggest loser. Bewildered with people backing him. Bobs Worth one to beat after Lexus.
TM doesn't care what ground is. If Last Instalment runs he wins. Big Call!
Handicaps
AM - Handicaps. Colour Squadron in Byrne Group Plate. Pendra in Novice on first day.
JW - Whatever Renetti runs in.
TM - Sraid Padraig. If he runs it'll be 3m on first day.
RM - Tammy's Hill NRNB Lump On!
TM - Vitrix Gale in the Kim Muir. Has a right chance. E/W bet of the festival!
TM says Thomas Edison is a fair horse. Isn't giving much away.... AM mentions he is only entered in County Hurdle. "Few pound E/W".
When asked about value bets both TM & RM were very bullish about Star Neuville in the Cross Country.
Bangor On Dee
Headline McCain states at Bangor preview Diamond King had slight setback & struggling to get him ready in time for Neptune. Likely waits for Aintree
Our version thx to @davidparryracin ( onetime neigh supremo )
Panel
Darren Owen DO
Donald McCain DM
Stewart Machin SM
Paul Jones PJ
John Morris JM
Andy Holding AH
Supreme
PJ not fancy Irving does like Wicklow brave.
AH Irving worthy fav but Wicklow Brave fastest.
SM Vautour strongest stayer.
JM likes WB too.
Don Mc completes the set....Wicklow brave
Arkle :
SM Dodging Bullets hard race last time. Champagne fever Chelt form the best
AH on Arkle champagne fever to beat but Hinterland a great alt on a speed comparison with sire de grugy. Valdez done nothing wrong.
DMc champ fever and dodging bullets the only ones to consider.
John Morris Cham Fever respected but Charles Byrnes Trifolium worth looking at.
PJ : Cham fever too tight a price. Not fancy Dodg bullets
Champ Hurdle
SM My Tent the horse. the fly not solid, new one hurdling a worry.
AH . On soft the fly, MTOY on good, in de screams nowhere
DMc knows how good the fly had to be to beat peddlers that day...will have taken a while to get over it but it was GOOD.
Neptune Novices
AH Faugheen impressive on numbers . Handles any ground. Good cruising speed, jumps well BUT red Sherlock best bet of meet
SM double figure fancy Deputy Dan
John Morris loves Faugheen for Neptune
DM fancies un temp pour tout
RSA
DMc Corrin Wood improving horse. Positive. Smad Place the opposition.
PJ RSA morning assembly
Champion Chase
AH mad keen on Hinterland with a run. 16s.
DMc likes Sire de Grugy.
JLT
JM fancies DJackAdam
DMc each way on Don Cossack
PJ and AH like Sizing Gold.
PJ does not fancy Tarquin de Seoul.
No one fancies Cscar Whiskey.
World Hurdle.
Paul Jones.....Annie power wins. To beat her something has to run to 170+ .
Andy Holding...will Annie get trip? Is Big Bucks finished? Primed for upset. More of That the pick.
Andy Holding : Mahler Beach on soft at 50s is huge in world hurdle
DMc ...no problem with Big Bucks, he should win.
Triumph Hurdle
Paul Jones owns share in Rutherglen . Horse up to 135. Forced to run in Triumph. Outside chance.
Albert Bartlett :
PJ front free in mkt tough to beat but Apache Jack full bro to black jack ketchup decent chance at 25s.
SM likes Urban hymn at price 16s,place prospects.
AH thinks urban hymn is 2016 gold cup horse.For this tho, captain cutter and kings palace
Gold Cup
DMc loves Bobs Worth for this. " sticks his chin out when it matters".
JM agrees.
SM loves Bobs Worth too. Haydock run to be dismissed. Leopardstown the form. If you beat Bob, you'll deserve it.
Stewart Machin. Worst possible result for racing plc is Last Instalment .
AH....Bobs Worth is everything you want in a NH horse.
PJ worried about Silvi Conti jumping so very much a Bob man. Rocky Creek each way.
Handicaps .
PJ Sailors Warn in the county hurdle 33s if he gets in. On the Fringe for fox hunters ( I know it's not a handicap)
DMc Indian Fringe slick jumper. Runs in Kim Muir. Derek O'Connor rides.
DMc : Disport (?) good horse. Doyley Carte each way for mares race. Cinders may run in county but got lots of problems but equal ability. Ok
DMc Overturn trotting away. Cantering next week. Had a hard career but loves being a race horse. Chester Cup?!
JM bumper ....Black Hercules.
SM Wirehead in coral cup. Goodwood Mirage in Fred Winter on better ground in strong run race. Cost400k
Zero Shades of grey big powerful horse to outrun his price in a handicap....according to SM
Dublin Racing Club
Supreme
Andrew Moore goes for Vautour. J
ohnny Ward and Robbie McNamara go for Valseur Lido.
AM agrees that he is the value.
Arkle
No real consensus on the Arkle. Positive words for Trifolium from RM and Rock on Ruby is the class angle if he gets his jumping together.
The Champion Hurdle
Just in time Tony Martin has arrived!
Johnny Ward with a big call. Expects Our Conor to turn the form with Hurricane Fly.
Tony Martin agrees. "He will have been trained for this. He should improve 2 or 3 lengths."
TM, JW - Our Conor RM - The Fly (Sole bit of love for the Fly!)
AM - Jezki E/W
Neptune
RM comes straight out of the gate and makes Faugheen his NAP of the festival. Ridden against him and in work. Machine.
TM very sweet on Rathvinden. Can't see him out of the places. AM and JW both agree.
JW - "Not certain Faugheen runs in this."
RSA.
Irish horses all beating each other. Ballycasey got a soft lead in Leopardstown. Hard to have a strong view.
Champion Chase
Now for The Worst Champion Chase Ever!
RM can't see many faults with SDG.
AM agrees but they will have to take him on.
@CassStephen trying his best to get TM to run Benneficient. TM says won't run.
JW can't see a bet.
Bumper
TM bullish on Gollintilla. Needed the run last day. Better ground will help. Not out of first three.
RM - If ground is soft would ride Vigil. Otherwise Silver Concorde. If he stays nothing else will beat him. Would win listed race over 12f.
JW going against the grain and going for an English horse. If Modus was trained here he'd be a lot shorter.
RM gives a very positive word for Value at Risk. Heard Richard Hughes rides.
JLT
JW very bullish about Felix Yonger. If ground is good he wins as he likes.
RM agrees.
TM very sweet on Oscar Whiskey.
AM agrees but sides with Felix. All about the ground.
Ryanair
TM obviously starts. Ideal race for Benneficient. Won't run if ground is heavy. Hot race but hopeful.
AM quotes C&D form for him.
JW thinks First Lieutenant deserves his place in market. Between him and Beneficient. Edging toward TM's horse.
RM thinks Hidden Cyclone is the bet. Much better left handed.
World Hurdle.
AM - Keeping Annie on side. Very tough for Bucks. Annie could go off 6/4. Zarkander e/w out of Nichols horses. Annie Power is the bet.
JW thinks Annie is an "All Ireland Price". Absolute machine. NRNB 5/2 Fill your boots.
Massive Annie Power love in. RM throws a curve ball and puts up Mount Benbulben. Doesn't like fences. Big price for a place.
TM throws in More of That. AM talks about how much of a farce the mares race is. Quevega should have won a World Hurdle.
Triumph.
TM thinks Le Rocher is the bet of the festival. @CassStephen tries to talk about stats. TM having none of it!
JW - Broughton one for him.
Intrigued by TM's banker.
RM also weighs in behind Le Rocher. Irish have no chance!
AM would be worried about Le Rocher being over the top. Would be very much with Calipto.
RM says Geraghty very sweet on Royal Irish.
Albert Bartlett
JW not sure Briar Hill will be able to pick up Kings Palace. Holes in Briar Hills form.
TM - Further BH goes more he'll come on the bridle. Sprinted up the hill last year. Very sweet on him.
RM - Briar Hill hasn't raced against anything like Kings Palace. 3m an issue. Kings Palace the one.
Gold Cup
RM - Lat Installment I jumped fences for sport last day. If any improvement and ground is easy he'll get into a lovely rhythm and nothing will beat him.
JW loves LI. Bobs Worth one to beat but if LI gets into rhythm he'll be very hard to pass. If LI wins it'll be sporing fairytale.
AM saying Captain Chris is biggest loser. Bewildered with people backing him. Bobs Worth one to beat after Lexus.
TM doesn't care what ground is. If Last Instalment runs he wins. Big Call!
Handicaps
AM - Handicaps. Colour Squadron in Byrne Group Plate. Pendra in Novice on first day.
JW - Whatever Renetti runs in.
TM - Sraid Padraig. If he runs it'll be 3m on first day.
RM - Tammy's Hill NRNB Lump On!
TM - Vitrix Gale in the Kim Muir. Has a right chance. E/W bet of the festival!
TM says Thomas Edison is a fair horse. Isn't giving much away.... AM mentions he is only entered in County Hurdle. "Few pound E/W".
When asked about value bets both TM & RM were very bullish about Star Neuville in the Cross Country.

