They are both unsavoury characters as far as I can see. But to be honest, this is a massive storm in a very little teacup.
Dona Mara has a point. I think Please Not Poll made a point on the Tottenham board yesterday that any player refusing to shake hands gets automatically booked/fined, it's a view I don't agree with and I keep thinking back to the Bridge/Terry non shake a couple of years ago - there was a man whose marriage ended as a result of the man standing in front of him, his kids were put through tumoil and probably suffered some psychological damage as a result yet he's expected to shake hands with the man who created all this ? It's a disaster waiting to happen - get rid of it, it's a sham, most of the players don't like each other so why this false show of respect ?
You are talking utter bollox John 1) If a man uses the N word continually, at least 7 times, that is more than just a flash in the pan - the man has some deep rooted dislike to people of colour. 2) Players wind other players up, it is part of the game, but racism is not acceptable - point blank. Players can go too far and while I have no problem being wound up by other players on the pitch some things should not be said. For example, a player recently lost his young son and he played through the pain of the loss and fans of both teams applauded the player which was comendable. It would NOT be acceptable for an opposing player to wind him up about his lost child - this would be over stepping he mark. I've pretty much read all 115 pages of the Regulatory Commission's report and Evra didn't wind Suarez up at all and even if he did - so bloody what ! There was no need to call the man the N word. The only kunt here is Suarez for being a racist prick who ought to go to Toxteth in Liverpool and call someone the N word .. or get brave and go to Moss Side in Manchester and call someone the N word and see what happens. 3) So in your world because a man shakes another man's hand that means he has no problem with their race ? You really are a thick muppet !
You're the thick muppet you plonker. He didn't use the n word at all he said negro, ie the spanish word for black, in a spanish conversation. You're free to hold what opinion you like but at least got your bloody facts straight
Rude boy, if you are going to argue with me you better have some backing for your argument. http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2012/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Disciplinary/Written%20reasons/FA%20v%20Suarez%20Written%20Reasons%20of%20Regulatory%20Commission.ashx Now .. there are 2 N words, one of which being the Spanish for black which, is NOT a racist term. However it becomes insulting and racist when used in anger in reference to someone's colour and, if you can read, the report shows that Suarez used it 7 times and the report concludes it is racist ! Now go and lick your wounds clown.
(Mr Evra) understood it to mean "Because you are a ******". give a **** what Evra understood it as. It no where does it say that suarez said ******. he actually said negro. The vile term "******" only exists in the states and the UK. If evra is going to make up his own interpretations then he should have had the conversation in English
Wow! Evra did not have Suarez vilified by the whole country. Evra did not get Suarez an 8 match ban. The fact that there are people walking around that believe Suarez was the victim - is gobsmacking.
If Suarez, Dalglish and the club had acted with dignity and humility in the first place this would've been long over by now but even their fans won't let it go and will carry on defending the indefensible.
Didn't Suarez say that his use of the word negro was reconciliatory? You gotta laugh at that haven't you. Oh yes, I did call him negro, but in South America that means best mate Is Suarez racist - NO Did he use a racial related slur and get punished for it - YES
Tucker its because these people are clueless oafs who probably have a lot in common with Suarez .. if truth be told. Yid Vicious - I totally agree Red - what part of what I wrote don't you understand ?
Opinions on the validity of the report aside - that doesn't change the fact that u said Suarez said the "n word" which is ****** and, I believe, a whole lot worse than "black". Imagine Terry saying "****ing ****** ****" rather than "****ing black ****" - if those two racist comments come across with exactly the same meaning to you then there's something wrong there
Suarez was proved to have racially abused Evra.Suarez was the guilty party.He had the chance to show some contrition on Saturday but chose not to.
1) I referred to the N word, I didn't specify which. I qualified my statement by referring to the Spanish word for black, which is negro - which should've given you the biggest clue which word I was referring to. A non Spanish speaker calling me a negro is as offensive as being called a ******. Its only because I know that negro is Spanish for black that it is not offensive on it's own - but - as I said, when used in anger with reference to skin colour - IT IS ! 2) negro and ****** used in anger are the same, neither is worse than the other. This is the fundamental point you are missing. If someone called me a negro in anger what do you think would happen ? Exactly the same as if he called me a ****** - and I dare say most blacks share the same opinion as me on this point.
Well that's you then. If someone of a different race was racist towards me, I would not be offended because that's just me. However it does not mean that he was not racially insulting me. There are others who would be just as offended by being called racially explicit terms by both people of another race and by people of their own race.
I'll second that too. Dalglish is one who rapidly went downwards in my estimation ever since he lost it with Arsene at The Emirates towards the end of last season. Totally undignified then and no different now. TBH I wasn't surprised at the manner by which he orchestrated the defence of Suarez.
