Given who owns that lot up the road I could see them getting an invite - I wonder if the fans would still think that they've got their club back then.
The owners won't care as long as the money flows in as for the fans. **** them, you reap what you sow
20 team World Super League played home, away, then the World Cup Cup played at select venues around the world. LIV could.pay every participating club £1 billion a season for 5 years and not touch their wealth. Then add in the TV and sponsorship money, no FFP etc and clubs will jump, players will as well as it will endorsed by FIFA. The English FA need to grow a set and get ready for the big restructure that is desperately needed across all professional football
A closed competition would completely change the game we love. It would tear apart the English pyramid system. The idea that even the smallest club, 5 divisions below the Football League could, technically, rise to the top of the game would be gone forever. We don't want the rich clubs to piss off. We want them to be forced to stay loyal to their domestic leagues. This would be awful.
It wouldn't be awful, it would give the FA and most 'normal' clubs the chance to properly reset. Clubs wouldn't need state money to even stand a chance of competing
Greedy bastards....lets see if the Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool fans still want to block this...hope so
I agree that someone needs to hit the reset button but this isn't the way. If elite football is a closed competition, we've lost one of the basic tenets of the game. I scout for a club at Step 4 of the non-league pyramid. If all goes well, in 8 years time, I could scout for that same club in the Champions League. With a closed competition at the top, that possibility is gone. Then there's the heritage of the game to consider. The big famous clubs gone from their domestic leagues. Traditional rivalries no--longer competed. History means a lot in football and that will be taken away from us. The drain of players from the 'normal' game. We'll never see the top stars compete against our team. This is making all the problems with football deeper, not the solution to them.
Gotta be honest, don’t watch full CL matches until the knockouts, jus the goals show. The reason for this is it’s the same teams at the core every year so the groups aren’t that interesting. Point being, if they make it a league, I won’t be arsed about watching it, and I doubt I am alone. If they wanna **** off and make a league then others will become the ‘big 6’ and over a couple years we wouldn’t care. Us, Newcastle, Leeds, Villa, West Ham and Everton maybe. I mean I doubt it happens but if teams were forced out of the league I’d still be engaged in domestic football and **** their circus.
You might see the top stars but you will see some brilliant players at real clubs not backed by billions and billions of unlimited money. The average fan below the state backed clubs would bite your hand off for a reset where clubs like us, Leeds, villa, forest actually could compete for the league title
A reset is definitely needed but there are better ways to do it. Like the Champions League being for the champions of every European country, spreading the money further and improving the standard in the smaller countries. Winning the title with Man Utd, Liverpool etc removed would be a hollow victory.
Yep, I agree. But if it goes another way when it’s even more ‘us and them’ then I can see clubs like those listed above saying ‘**** em’. The ‘big clubs’ become nowt much if only their own fans wanna watch them. This all being driven by big Spanish and Italian clubs on the brink of bankruptcy. It’s plain as day. PL generates its own money and the Bundesliga is magnificently ran. We don’t need to be bailing out the debt riddled Spanish clubs (and Juve), cos that’s all this is.
Yeah, it could well go tits up for them. A bit like Jokerit the Finnish Ice Hockey team who ****ed off their domestic league for the Russian backed Kontinental Hockey League (intended to compete with the NHL). Then when Russia invaded Ukraine, all their sponsors pulled out so they made the decision to leave the KHL and their domestic league has made them wait before letting them back in. If they do go, I'll be hoping something similar happens and the clubs eventually come back but after suffering some appropriate punishment. You're right about the Italian and Spanish leagues though.
No let them piss off, would it be any different for the lower teams in the league? It’s only 6 teams getting told to f uck off not the whole premiership. Would they not get to the top quicker?
Exactly. Let them go, reset the money and give ALL the clubs in the pyramid hope they can achieve league wins without needing state ownership or multi billionaire owners. If anything it would protect those left even more as budgets would have to be reduced to suit less income, players would have to accept realistic wages, owners wouldn't throw millions in the scramble to get to the "promised land" I am pretty sure football did OK pre 1992
Yes. They'd miss out on the revenue that having the top clubs visit brings. The standard of the competition would decrease, so there is the possibility that interest would wane, bringing income for clubs down. All of which could lead to the loss of smaller clubs. It seems that it will be an open competition so, from a competition point of view, it might not be so bad. But the whole point of it is the rich clubs get richer. What football needs is more equal distribution of income, not less.
Before 1992, the distribution of money was more equal. The first set of Premier League clubs (including those that were favourites to be relegated) voted to share less of the league's income with the lower divisions than they had under the old system. That's what has led to the gap between the Premier League and the Football League. This will do the same but more extreme.
You won't get equal distribution till the big 6 go, they want a closed shop and the super league gives them even more of a closed shop. 6 games a year the big clubs visit the so called minnows, that's hardly earth shattering financially
