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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by bcfcredandwhite, May 6, 2016.

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In, out, or undecided?

  1. In

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    27.3%
  2. Out

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Rod we can pull back now it is our chance,if not we are going to be in one big hell hole believe me.
     
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  2. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    You really should work for the Daily Mail mate.
     
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  3. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Why should we believe you when you have literally zero facts to back up your points? Apart from that you know someone in the NHS and omg it's the immigrants!
     
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  4. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    errr my son is at Leeds University doing Medicine,Rob i could tell you some stats and the feeling within the Uni but that is not to be put on here,but the mood is not good.
     
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  5. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Again, the stories of one or two people in very different areas have no validity mate! Tell me some stats, please! That's the point of this isn't it?
     
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  6. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the European union
     
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  7. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    Please expand, all unis have a lot of foreign students and they put in a lot of money into the uni via tuition fees.

    As with immigration, net immigration is less than actual immigration intake. Our birth rate is not large enough to sustain our aging population and so immigration will be required to help fill the void.

    Global population will rise to a peak of around 9-10 billion and with climate change refugees almost certain this will require countries to take in those who have lost homes to sea rises and drought
     
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  8. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'net immigration is less than actual immigration intake'
    Amazing what gets taught at school these days.
    PS - FYI net immigration is the population of Hull moving here every year.

    'Again, the stories of one or two people'
    I took my Grandson in the the RUH Bath last Autumn, he was very unwell.
    We were ushered into a waiting area for the very young and joined 5 other families waiting for their children to be attended.
    All 5 families were foreign.

    No validity, just my experience.
     
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  9. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    ??
     
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  10. RedorDead

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    1. What does that mean? If you allow in 100 you have a net of 100 nothing more nothing less. Are you trying to say. We let in 100 but 110 leave? As that's not true either.
    2. Study history, life goes in cycles. You have the baby boom like just towards the end of the war, then you had the lull. Then the baby boomers had kids and so on etc. Anyway with life expectancy rising will increase the population.
    But why do we need to fill voids?
     
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    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    So should families have to suffer and perhaps have their children develop long term avoidable illnesses and injuries because they are a different nationality?
     
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    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    A working population is needed to look after pre-working age groups and post-working age groups.
     
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  13. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    Not true yet again, men don't retire at 65 or women at 60 no more. This has been raised to suit the person. So along with longer life's the working life is also increased.
    Also with the pension regulations, the older population will be paying for themselves in years to come.
    I don't know where you are getting these from, but they ain't all true.

    I have noticed you never commented again on the gold reserve v utilities sell off.
     
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    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    Except people retire early and despite the age going up for retirement the number of older people requiring care is only going to increase.

    As for the utility thing, business like that would bring in money year on year for the government, we could guarantee sufficient investment and not have people be ripped off by foreign investors
     
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  15. Red Alert

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    By being members of the eu this means its harder to re-nationalise utilities mind the gap. The eu wants its members to be able to bid to run utility services in member countries.
     
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  16. Redprintt

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    'So should families have to suffer and perhaps have their children develop long term avoidable illnesses and injuries because they are a different nationality?'

    MTG, what are you like.
    Of course not.
    Don't you see the hundreds of thousands who come here are putting ever increasing pressure on the NHS.
    Just like schools.
    Roads
    Housing
    Our entire infrastructure can't/won't cope.

    Vote remain and we won't have a say in our future, it will all be from Brussels.
     
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  17. wizered

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    When Labour politicians say investment in people and jobs, they mean extra borrowing and extra taxes on working people, hence less money for workers, we are still paying off debt from the last Labour debacle because they couldn't control the financial or banking businesses and they let credit rip.

    Every time there is a Labour government we as a country end up nearly bankrupt, mark my words the lunatics are on the rise and will soon take over the asylum, just look at Jeremy Corbyn, the new Labour excuse, he is going to send out our submarines unarmed, the spineless piece of meat, god help us if we vote to stay in the EU.
     
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  18. banksyisourhero

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    Practically every word of this is complete nonsense!
     
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  19. banksyisourhero

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    And they all think like MTG..
     
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  20. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Debt and borrowing has increased significantly under the current government v labour.
     
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