Match Day Thread Euro 2021 Thread
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This is why racism is a very complex issue. And why throwing around the word *racist* waters the whole thing down.Are you confusing accusing a white Male of racism with actual racism?
It's kinda be like saying people calling for justice for George floyd or being racists cos they say black lives matter not all lives matter.
It's what happens when someone deliberately exaggerates a point to get people to react and think about stuff.
Blame Rio Ferdinand, he started it
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What are the reasons they boo out of interest? I haven’t seen any actual reason for it, maybe they have valid points I’m not aware of
The second fans were allowed back before the last lockdown the millwall fans immediately launched in on their own side even though they had one player who was quite shocked by them.
They claimed it was about blm being a left wing thing etc.
However even the most basic scan of the actual facts of the matter would show that view to be ridiculous.
A few different ones, but mainly not liking what can be seen as a political protest before a football match.
Also that's its gone on to long and it's just tokenism at this point, which is diverting attention from doing something that actually has an effect.
The actually history of the thing is mixed.
Martin Luther king did this in 1965.
Kaepernick started by sitting not standing for the national anthem in 2016, he then knelt as he was advised it was slightly more respectful and might not drive the red.necks made but he made a terrible error. He dared stand up to racism when Donald trump was running for the White House.
The minute that guy got elected he basically ordered the NFL's to sack the guy and hes never got a job since. He was let go in march 2017.
Blm started in 2013.
To conflate all these things is silly. If sports people chose to use a gesture to signal support for kick it out the fine. If some who are black chose to say that nothings changed and we are all hypocrites then fine.
This is about listening. It's not about rich sports people. It's about the kids in the park and all that.
What lesson do fans think booing blm sends to the kids in the park.
Martin Luther king did this in 1965.
Kaepernick started by sitting not standing for the national anthem in 2016, he then knelt as he was advised it was slightly more respectful and might not drive the red.necks made but he made a terrible error. He dared stand up to racism when Donald trump was running for the White House.
The minute that guy got elected he basically ordered the NFL's to sack the guy and hes never got a job since. He was let go in march 2017.
Blm started in 2013.
To conflate all these things is silly. If sports people chose to use a gesture to signal support for kick it out the fine. If some who are black chose to say that nothings changed and we are all hypocrites then fine.
This is about listening. It's not about rich sports people. It's about the kids in the park and all that.
What lesson do fans think booing blm sends to the kids in the park.
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First point ok. But what about wearing Poppy’s? Isn’t that political? What about rainbow laces? People not wanting politics in football, I’m guessing none of these people were any of the people asking the gov to get involved with ESL in that case as well?
Second point, I do agree that it’s lost its initial appeal and it should probably have been stopped sooner as it’s not really having impact given we still seeing players abused online. However I’m not sure that booing it is the right response in that case.
All booing does in that case is make people more determined to do it.. so kind of having opposite effect.
I’m not going to say all people that boo are bad people or racists etc. However you can imagine that the same people that are sending abusive messages would probably be the ones booing at the match as well
I expect your right, people tend to be a bit hypocritical on subjects such as this.
Funny but yes the booing has made it impossible to stop, however the furore over the booing will also make people more determined.
You can imagine links between the people who boo and racism, but as long as you are aware that they are imagined and not proven then that's sound. At least there is wiggle room for you to change your mind.
I will clarify, I dont support the booing, but I do support that they can show their discontent, certainly with out being immediately labeled as something.
I also don't support the kneeling however, I find it vaguely ridiculous.
are we all ready for the inquest after Croatia's win.
England to start with 4 full backs on the pitch cos the "reserve" Cbs are useless, the 4 full backs means at least 1 and probably 2 of enlgand best attacking midfielders will be benched.
not only that but modric will have the run of the park.
England to start with 4 full backs on the pitch cos the "reserve" Cbs are useless, the 4 full backs means at least 1 and probably 2 of enlgand best attacking midfielders will be benched.
not only that but modric will have the run of the park.
I heard it's all Everton fans, that's how they show their support
