Euro 2012 thread

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So, effectively, for England, it starts today, knockout football...the question is, will it end today too...?
 
England starting XI:
Hart
Johnson - Terry - Lescott - Cole
Milner - Gerrard - Parker - Young
Rooney - Welbeck​

Shevchenko does not start for Ukraine <ok>
 
Nice to see Rooney just stroll back into the team even though we've surpassed expectations so far and are two forwards both scored in the last game. Got to feel gutted for Carroll to miss out after his performance.

Can't believe both Young & Milner also kept their place, both have been dismal so far.
 
Lucaaas said:
suarezlfc said:
Agree with this. This 'phases' rule is ridiculous. It was part of the same attacking move, ergo he's offside.
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I was reading a good point about this quite a while ago. It was asking why more people didn't take advantage of this rule by just sliding balls behind the opposition full back to a really quick winger of yours and having your striker standing miles offside ready to have the ball squared to him for a tap in.

Makes sense really...
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I read an article on this today & now can't bloody find it but it quotes the two sections in the offside rule & I think the linesman got it wrong. The second player had to be active in the first phase from the perspective of the keeper. The keeper is confronted in his field of vision, as the original ball through is played, with two players. If there was only the individual player almost all keepers would make the decision to rush out to meet the attacker making themselves as big as possible. Trying to narrow the shooting angle.

In the game last night because the second player is present (in an offside position as the through ball is played) the keeper has to try & do two things; cut off the shooting angle AND the possible pass to the side.

So under the existing phase rules the linesman should form the opinion that advantage is there in the first phase and rule offside.

He didn't obviously.
 
Rooney was always going to start; he's our only cough, world class splutter player...vomit.

We'll see how world class & "mature" he really is(and I actually do hope he puts on a fantastic display)

Interestingly I read two articles from Kenny & Rafa declaring their undying love for him today!

Who are we to argue, :D
 
Why the **** is Woy persisting with the utterly abysmal Young on the left?

I can just about understand Milner's inclusion a she does have a semblance of a defensive brain which protect Johnson to a degree.

But Young? What is the point of him?
 
this rooney ****fest is begining to grate...no other player on the pitch, he's done **** all to get us a chance to go thru to the next round and now its all about him. "its about the team" so long as its got rooney in it!....he better deliver!
 
Dirtyfrank said:
I read an article on this today & now can't bloody find it but it quotes the two sections in the offside rule & I think the linesman got it wrong. The second player had to be active in the first phase from the perspective of the keeper. The keeper is confronted in his field of vision, as the original ball through is played, with two players. If there was only the individual player almost all keepers would make the decision to rush out to meet the attacker making themselves as big as possible. Trying to narrow the shooting angle.

In the game last night because the second player is present (in an offside position as the through ball is played) the keeper has to try & do two things; cut off the shooting angle AND the possible pass to the side.

So under the existing phase rules the linesman should form the opinion that advantage is there in the first phase and rule offside.

He didn't obviously.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. And technically Navas is 'active' regardless of whether the GK sees/reacts to him or not. When Fabregas plays it over, Navas is in the process of moving into position to receive the second pass. Had he been onside in the 'first phase', what's to say a defender wouldn't have tracked him?
 
i just don't like the way the "medja" has just focused on rooney since the sweeden game..

COME ON EN-GER-LAND!!!!!
 
Does anyone on this earth talk as much inane bollox as Andy ****ing Townsend? He did **** all as a player, and he's as equally ****e as a commentator.
 
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