Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Thinking about it then are you mate?

I'm not sure Islam is for you tbh

 

Too right its not

 

Far from it Kustard, I just could tell @Hull City AFC (DMD) was trying to be a dickhead and he succeeded. I just wanted to learn more before I congratulated him.

 

Kustard very original, did you take that from Racist Stan?

 

My eldest lass has just been travelling for 3 months Thailand-Cambodia-Viet Nam-Java-Bali she finished her Master's at Leeds Uni but decided to travel the world first before looking for a career - to fund her travels she didn't come to dad - she temped (indeed she worked at a fashion house in Leeds during her MA year) she made such a good impression working for a marketing agency whilst temping that the guy running it took her onto the books for the month before she went travelling and told her that there might well be a full time job when she came back - she's now working full time having started last week. - I was more impressed that she actually came home still in funds. She's currently commuting from her mum's into London but her and two mates are looking to get a flat together in London. I'm proud that she is so self-sufficient and motivated to find her own way.

Perhaps it's in her blood - my grandmother was a fierce Lancastrian who moved to Leicester because that's where the majority of her childtren had ended up. My youngest Uncle was in the army at the time and was on manoeuvres in Germany when the effects of a brain tumour left him partially paralysed - he was only 21 - he came to live with my grandmother who would not let him sign on the dole under any circumstances because it went against her principles - the men in the family had always worked - my grandfather had been a 'setter' in a brick factory - so my Uncle had his army pension but went to work in a Leicester factory as soon as he had recovered enough to be able to walk with the aid of a stick. He never took a penny in unemployment benefit.

This country could do with more of my grandmother's attitude IMHO - you pay your own way if you can - the welfare state was never meant to be a lifestyle choice - it was meant to be a temporary support for working men in between jobs and families fallen on hard times. I have immense respect for anybody that tries to work to earn a living - I don't have much for physically able men or women who consider some jobs beneath them.

 

I wouldn't disagree that people need to accept their own responsibility, and that some people do manage despite the system.

However, I'd say a few examples of people getting by, albeit with temp and part time work, doesn't actually alter the basis of my argument.

 

After reading the last 5 pages of this thread...... do you all agree the country needs to get rid of all
the do gooding know nothing ponces that seemed to have grown massively in number over the last
30 years.

 

Meanwhile, in the Labour Party ....
Window smashed at Labour MP Angela Eagle's Wallasey office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-36773355

 

Will they ever be elected again?.... i should hope not.

 

I dont think they will in their present form.

 

Have they ever had a good form?.... what with Tony Blair being their high point in the last 20 years.

 

I don't see how the Labour Party can survive as it is. It seems certain that there will be a split.

 

it will be interesting which side the unions will support if there is a split - I would guess the MPs

 

He suggested KKKustard....

 

Universally known as being a 'Pete'.

 

Tony Blair was not Labour. He was Torylite. Edward Heath was more left wing than him.

 

Does that mean Heath was Labourheavy?

 

I think you'll find he was labour

 

Looks like the union leaders are sticking with Corbyn. Their members, however, seem to feel differently!....


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yougov-poll-reveals-majority-union-8400837

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...port-jeremy-corbyn-leadership-challenge-looms