Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

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Tobes said:
I agree, about why he's clinging on but I'm not sure he'll be re- elected personally. Labour would become completely fractured if that's the way it goes. A break away party is a possibility but I don't think it's the most likely outcome. Common sense will prevail at some point, but it's ****ing cringeworthy that they're seemingly going to have to drag him out by his heels.
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Common sense ain't that common, unfortunately.

You may be right, but I'm sure his £3 'mates' will rally all the support they possibly can and he could well win again. He obviously thinks so at the moment.

More likely is that he'll finally be convinced to resign.
 
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Spurlock said:
Hi lads, missed the last 30 pages of the thread, wagwaan?

sorry no internet connection on the ****ing boat, just got to Calais.

Love Spurlock x
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You're a ****wit.
No you're a ****wit.

I have more kitchens than you.
I have more toilets than you.

Pete's identity is being used to set up a polish whorehouse. Pete doesn't mind as he can use his other kitchen. etc. etc.

30 pages worth (minimum)
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
Oh, go and make yourself some toast in one of your kitchens, Pete.

FYI, the real money is in Malta, where the taxman can't get his hands on it. ok?...
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I always wondered why my dad bought a place in Malta and goes there for 4 months a year. He's a tight fisted **** as well. Owns plenty of money and property - not that I'll ever see any of it!
 
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Skylarker said:
I always wondered why my dad bought a place in Malta and goes there for 4 months a year. He's a tight fisted **** as well. Owns plenty of money and property - not that I'll ever see any of it!
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It's just tax efficient. The way it's been structured I pay far less tax than I otherwise would...

Can't help you with your old man. But if he's that well off, try being nice to him...:tongue:
 
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NowsufferinginSpain said:
It's just tax efficient. The way it's been structured I pay far less tax than I otherwise would...

Can't help you with your old man. But if he's that well off, try being nice to him...:tongue:
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I am nice to him, but too much water under the bridge now!

He has a lovely villa in Mellieha, and does his banking there :bandit:

I'm still waiting for a ****ing invite <grr>
 
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Skylarker said:
You're a ****wit.
No you're a ****wit.

I have more kitchens than you.
I have more toilets than you.

Pete's identity is being used to set up a polish whorehouse. Pete doesn't mind as he can use his other kitchen. etc. etc.

30 pages worth (minimum)
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That about sums it up tbf like.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
True, about a lot of it.

But some of it was ****ing hilarious! I was literally crying here a couple of times....<laugh>
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I was mate. Pete is a ****ing legend, I think he's my new favourite poster.

At least we can still have a laugh, I probably over stepped the mark a few times if I'm honest, but I think most of us did (on both sides). It's a very emotive and polarised debate.
 
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Tobes said:
I was mate. Pete is a ****ing legend, I think he's my new favourite poster.

At least we can still have a laugh, I probably over stepped the mark a few times if I'm honest, but I think most of us did (on both sides). It's a very emotive and polarised debate.
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Spot on, mate. I did the same until I finally decided to just let it go!...

With a vote that was almost 50-50 there was always going to be a lot of arguments.
 
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I am an old school Labour supporter. I was disgusted when clause 4 was scrapped. That has allowed many of our key industries, water, energy supply and transport etc to be owned by companies, many of which are not British,where profit comes before service. The illusion of competition driving down prices has been shown to be false. When these industries were in public ownership any profit came back to the treasury. The recent sale of the mail service for a knockdown price is a prime example of Tory dogma. They sold just as it was about to make a profit.
This is why Labour needs to be more left-wing and rid itself of the Tory-lite Blairites. When two parties were putting forward policies that were effectively very similar the electorate chose the one that always espoused those policies. Jeremy Corbyn has set the party back on the right path. It may be that it is not him that reaps the reward, but it is to his credit that he took on the Blairites and won. To reject him now would be to condemn the country to Tory policies fora very long time.
 
paultheplug said:
I am an old school Labour supporter. I was disgusted when clause 4 was scrapped. That has allowed many of our key industries, water, energy supply and transport etc to be owned by companies, many of which are not British,where profit comes before service. The illusion of competition driving down prices has been shown to be false. When these industries were in public ownership any profit came back to the treasury. The recent sale of the mail service for a knockdown price is a prime example of Tory dogma. They sold just as it was about to make a profit.
This is why Labour needs to be more left-wing and rid itself of the Tory-lite Blairites. When two parties were putting forward policies that were effectively very similar the electorate chose the one that always espoused those policies. Jeremy Corbyn has set the party back on the right path. It may be that it is not him that reaps the reward, but it is to credit that he took on the Blairites and won. To reject him now would be to condemn the country to Tory policies fora very long time.
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The possession of Principles, particularly in politicians, is an admirable trait. However, politicians can do little if they don't have power.

Fine if Corbyn wants to stick to his principles, I'd respect him for that, although I disagree with him. But, he's dividing his party. He clearly cannot unite it, and should stand aside for somebody who can.

I believe, as do many, many others that the Labour Party has zero chance of winning a GE with Corbyn in charge.
 
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paultheplug said:
I am an old school Labour supporter. I was disgusted when clause 4 was scrapped. That has allowed many of our key industries, water, energy supply and transport etc to be owned by companies, many of which are not British,where profit comes before service. The illusion of competition driving down prices has been shown to be false. When these industries were in public ownership any profit came back to the treasury. The recent sale of the mail service for a knockdown price is a prime example of Tory dogma. They sold just as it was about to make a profit.
This is why Labour needs to be more left-wing and rid itself of the Tory-lite Blairites. When two parties were putting forward policies that were effectively very similar the electorate chose the one that always espoused those policies. Jeremy Corbyn has set the party back on the right path. It may be that it is not him that reaps the reward, but it is to his credit that he took on the Blairites and won. To reject him now would be to condemn the country to Tory policies fora very long time.
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Labour won 3 consecutive elections until 2010, so how can you say that they didn't have an appeal to the centre ground?

Corbyn is a fossil. A throwback to a time when Labour became unelectable. Moving way to the left will ensure Labour merely become a fringe party. He may appeal to the old Skool Labour Party member but he'll never win over the sector than will deliver a GE victory
 
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