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I hadn't thought about it before, but PS is right. One season will cost the buyer £30m (or whatever we demand) and so it is likely whoever wants him will wait a year unless they are very wealthy.
 
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Dier Hard said:
I think when we compare him to the other two elite players that left, there’s a strong argument to back Eriksen up in saying he’s more important and a bigger loss than what both Modric and Bale were.

Modric spent four seasons with the club, in his first season he started off a bit shaky but grew as it went on. The other three seasons, he became the man that made Spurs tick and controlled games with ease. When Spurs fans were telling the world he was one of the best midfielders around no one really believed us and it took a move to Madrid for him to showcase just what a player he was.

Bale spent about six seasons with us. The first two were riddled with injury and despite some flashes of potential, it wasn’t looking great for him. He then at one point even started being linked with a move to the championship, especially as he had an unwanted record with Spurs of not being on the winning side for x amount of games (think it was around 20+). Then he came alive in our debut CL season with the performances against Inter really getting him attention and his performances in both Europe and England really improving. His final season at Spurs probably saw the best individual performance throughout a season you’ve seen from a Spurs player, certainly in the Prem era anyway, that then convinced Madrid to part with a world record fee. In Bale’s six seasons, it’s probably fair to say he was only brilliant for about two and a half of those, albeit the final being better than anything we’ve seen.

Compare those now to Eriksen, who’s entering his seventh season with the club. He won our POTY in his debut season and has generally been one our top three players in each season since, picking up another POTY award a couple seasons back. Even when last season his performances were criticised, he was banging out impressive numbers that showed that even being below par, he was still head and shoulders above most of the league. Since he came to the Prem, no one has created more chances and no one has gotten more assists than him. He’s been a vital part in Spurs securing a fourth straight season in the CL. He’s been a key player in a better team too, both Modric and Bale were better players in poorer teams in my opinion, so I’d say it’s been a tougher task for Eriksen to stand out if your teammates are of a higher calibre.

This is why I’m personally fearful of losing him, Poch/ Levy has built a team we can all be proud of that has generally been so close to doing something special, if you take the most important part of that team out, it’s hard/ harder to see us achieving the success it really does deserve for all its hard work.
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You make an excellent case DH what I would say is that I think we expect more from the current team because as you describe it is a better overall team. I am willing to speculate that if we had Modric in this current team rather than Eriksen we might well have a little more push and a little more chance of actual winning something. Who knows! But I take your point about him having to shine in a better team. When this team have tried to be very strong, as in the battle of Stamford Bridge, you could see the heart was there and even in the game against Villa and other similar games Spurs keep trying until the end. The last 4 games in the CL before the final showed the fight that there is the team. Was it Eriksen? I certainly don't think he was the main man in those games. You might have expected him to be but he's not captain material is he.
 
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SpursDisciple said:
I hadn't thought about it before, but PS is right. One season will cost the buyer £30m (or whatever we demand) and so it is likely whoever wants him will wait a year unless they are very wealthy.
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Or they want to make sure that they get him and get this season from him, too.
Leave it until the summer and he can go wherever he wants, unless they've already tapped him up illegally, which is probably the case.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Or they want to make sure that they get him and get this season from him, too.
Leave it until the summer and he can go wherever he wants, unless they've already tapped him up illegally, which is probably the case.
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A loan with an option to buy is a better analogy. But we either get a fee or an extra season out of him and the fee needs to compensate for us losing the extra season. The extra season can hardly be worth more than £40m to the buying club but it might be to us. So I would not sell him for less than that which means I most likely wouldn't sell him at all.
 
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You make an excellent case DH what I would say is that I think we expect more from the current team because as you describe it is a better overall team. I am willing to speculate that if we had Modric in this current team rather than Eriksen we might well have a little more push and a little more chance of actual winning something. Who knows! But I take your point about him having to shine in a better team. When this team have tried to be very strong, as in the battle of Stamford Bridge, you could see the heart was there and even in the game against Villa and other similar games Spurs keep trying until the end. The last 4 games in the CL before the final showed the fight that there is the team. Was it Eriksen? I certainly don't think he was the main man in those games. You might have expected him to be but he's not captain material is he.
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Tough to say, whilst both are creative players they play in different positions. Modric dictated from deep, Eriksen more advanced. Personally I'd have loved to see the pair in the same side but I wouldn't be able to say who I think would be better for Spurs right now (assuming Modric was still in his prime) as the current system works better than the system Modric played in at Spurs.

As for the CL, it was a crazy run. We didn't actually play too much great football in many of the games and often had to rely on individuals to bail us out - Kane vs PSV, Eriksen vs Inter, Lucas vs Barca, Son vs City, Lucas vs Ajax. Unfortunately none of those turned up in the CL final and we paid the price for it, although a lot of blame can be thrown on Poch for benching Lucas for that at a time he was riding a high and responsible for getting us to that very final.

In terms of captain material, I think many great players don't/ wouldn't necessarily make great captains. I agree Eriksen wouldn't be a good captain but then neither would the likes of Lucas, Dele, Sissoko or Son. Someone like Dier could make a great captain but right now he's struggling to make the side - albeit a lot of that is down to his injuries/ illnesses. Dawson made a great captain for us but as players, Jan, Toby and even Dave are better than he was. It seems more of a personality factor (both on and off the pitch) than an ability factor when it’s comes to captaincy, it's why players like Sergio Ramos are a rarity, in that he's an elite defender as well as a fantastic captain PLUS just a complete born winner.
 
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Dier Hard said:
Tough to say, whilst both are creative players they play in different positions. Modric dictated from deep, Eriksen more advanced. Personally I'd have loved to see the pair in the same side but I wouldn't be able to say who I think would be better for Spurs right now (assuming Modric was still in his prime) as the current system works better than the system Modric played in at Spurs.

As for the CL, it was a crazy run. We didn't actually play too much great football in many of the games and often had to rely on individuals to bail us out - Kane vs PSV, Eriksen vs Inter, Lucas vs Barca, Son vs City, Lucas vs Ajax. Unfortunately none of those turned up in the CL final and we paid the price for it, although a lot of blame can be thrown on Poch for benching Lucas for that at a time he was riding a high and responsible for getting us to that very final.

In terms of captain material, I think many great players don't/ wouldn't necessarily make great captains. I agree Eriksen wouldn't be a good captain but then neither would the likes of Lucas, Dele, Sissoko or Son. Someone like Dier could make a great captain but right now he's struggling to make the side - albeit a lot of that is down to his injuries/ illnesses. Dawson made a great captain for us but as players, Jan, Toby and even Dave are better than he was. It seems more of a personality factor (both on and off the pitch) than an ability factor when it’s comes to captaincy, it's why players like Sergio Ramos are a rarity, in that he's an elite defender as well as a fantastic captain PLUS just a complete born winner.
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Winks is becoming Captain material. A bit of a Roy Keane in there me thinks. Keep clear of injury and a couple of years down the line. He needs to learn a bit more sh!thousery, but that is coming.
 
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Winks is becoming Captain material. A bit of a Roy Keane in there me thinks. Keep clear of injury and a couple of years down the line. He needs to learn a bit more sh!thousery, but that is coming.
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Yes, surprised a few of us, against Villa.

Very solid and dependable. Let’s hope he can keep that going all season.

Poch obviously has a lot of faith in him.
 
deedub93 said:
Winks is becoming Captain material. A bit of a Roy Keane in there me thinks. Keep clear of injury and a couple of years down the line. He needs to learn a bit more sh!thousery, but that is coming.
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Yeah for the U23s :bandit:
 
deedub93 said:
Winks is becoming Captain material. A bit of a Roy Keane in there me thinks. Keep clear of injury and a couple of years down the line. He needs to learn a bit more sh!thousery, but that is coming.
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He's Scott Parker with a little more passing ability and technique, in my opinion. Certainly not a bad thing.
 
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deedub93 said:
A season and a half ago when I suggested that Sissoko was the MoM, people laughed, they are not laughing now. Winks has it in him, just needs to stay injury free.
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Hey I didn’t laugh! CK made a thread around 18 months ago about Sissoko, I felt there and then he’d proven to be handy, albeit didn’t expect him to become as good as he has. I think it was that thread too that I started voicing concerns over Winks, unfortunately my opinion hasn’t changed. Squad player at best for me, don’t like seeing him in the starting XI.
 
It’s the Poch factor. Give him the raw talent and the right aptitude, and he will turn you into an international standard player.
 
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