Enrique transfer bid from Liverpool rejected.

OK first Enrique is still contracted to us, so is in every sense still our player.

Second the squad is still 2 players smaller, there will be no more youngsters than last season, and loans cost money as well, as do their wages in this fantasy world of increasing the wage budget to whatever we please, not what we can afford.

 

Players have to much power in todays game. Seriously, whats the difference between earning 50k a WEEK and 65k. Its just ludicrous money being thrown around.

In my opinion every club should be employing wage caps and slowly reducing the wages players have come to expect. It's never going to happen unfortuantly.

 

Quality not quantity make

2 players shorter wont make a different. Smith, Routledge, Xisco, Perch and Routlege, what good are these to our squad? They might aswell not be here.

As i said, i'd rather buy 3 players that will make a difference, and if that means getting rid of 5, most of whom that wont do **** on the team, then so be it as all they'll be doing is getting their wages. Enrique may not go but i'm sure he will.

Xisco, Smith and Enrique. That's 3 sets of high wages there. Give their wages to new players if we have to, and keep Routledge and Perch if you'd think it would help our squad depth.

 

If you break the wage cap for anybody it is broken for everybody. Once you make an exception all the other players will think that the cap no longer applies to them as well so long as they value themselves highly enough. And if they don't you can guarantee their agents will so it will be useless.

The financial security of this club is more important than any individual player so no exceptions should be made. If Barton thinks he is worth more than the wage cap then as far as I am concerned the club is correct to stop negotiating. £50k/week is more than enough for any player we have.

 

Definitely, it just comes down to sheer greed at the end of the day, unfortunately its just something we have to accept as football fans in order to still see and enjoy the beautiful game.

 

It's quality and quantity, but it would be unthinkable to enter next season with a smaller squad than we have now. 3 or 4 more players is what we need, plsu replace whoever leaves.

 

Well from what i've heard Barton has accepted a pay cut and the negotiations failed because of length of contract, but even so, Barton would be right in thinkin he's worth more than 50k a week.

Look how many points we've gotten without him this season. Without him, we'd have been relegated easily this season, and that would cost the club more than what ever extra Barton would ask in wages.

 

Would he ****. Being paid 50,000 a year to do something you love would be a ****ing dream, so if getting 2 and a half million a year isnt enough then **** off

 

Well maybe Barton should remember that the club stuck with him when he was sent to prison when the whole football world called for us to sack him and that he has also been injured for long periods of his contract. Loyalty works both ways and if he thinks that £50k/week isn't enough than I will be happy for him to leave because it will mean his so called love and loyalty to the club is just window dressing.

 

Pick up on a typo..

As i said mate, quality is the most important and i'm not denying that quantity/depth matters, but Xisco and Smith especially... why would you evn count them as player that counts towards the number of the squad?

Routledge and Perch have done **** all aswell. 4 players, 2 strikers, 1 creative mid and a replacement for Enrique if he leaves, otherwise we only need 3.

Are you saying that you wouldn't get rid of Smith, Xisco and Perch to sign one excellent player that will have significant effect on the team? I would.

You might aswell have a 20 man squad full of players that can all do more than pick up their wages like Xisco and Smith or be complete **** like Routledge and Perch, than a 25 man squad with a bunch of players that don't do anything what so ever for the team.

Kuqi, Smith, Xisco, Routledege, Perch all might aswell have not turned up because they've done nowt. I'd trade these 5 players for 3 new good ones any day, even if it meant taking a drop in the squad number.

We have Ferguson, Lua Lua and more reserves to fill the gaps that would be left for those players. Ferguson has done more than any of those 5 players have done this season.

See what i'm getting at? Quality and Quantity both matter, but when it's only 2/3 players short it doesn't mean **** if you're just going to fill your extra spaces with ****.

 

So how does this 20 man squad handle an injury list like the one we have now? 11 players including this wonder player you've brought in are all injured, and you have to turn to youngsters to start and fill the bench. Half of them will be out on loan anyway (can only see Ferguson and Vuckic staying next season).

 

Yes loyalty does work both ways, but Barton has made up for his prison days by the fact that he's basically kept us from another relegation that would cost the club a fortune again.

Barton wasn't even asking for high wages, he was asking for a longer contract, and despite the fact that we think some players are all for the fans and the love, every player to an extent wants a good contract.

In this case, the club have truely been unfair to Barton.

Barton has been earning more than the wage cap this year, but has more than made up for it, whilst over payed **** like Smith have sat on there arses doing **** all or been pure ****.

Barton's performances deserve reward, but the club are showing no gratitude for his services this season, so i don't blame him if he leaves.

He has a bad past, but he deserves credit and the club are showing that they don't give a **** that he basically kept this club up this season and saved them a ****ing fortune!!

 

I never said the 20 man squad was what we'll have this season, i wasn't talk literally, i was making a point that there's no point in having 5 **** players over 3 good ones.

We also have good reserves/youngsters that don't count towards the squad number, so effectively we'll still have a 25+ man squad. Ferguson, Lua Lua, Kadar they're better than all the players we'll be getting rid of!

You're thinking to drastically like i'm saying lets have a great team but a small squad. Remember that only over 21's make up the squad limit!

 

****ing hell this is getting boring now.

 

You are severely disrespecting the rest of our players and managers if you think that Barton is the only reason we stayed up this year. As for reward £65k/week or whatever he is on isn't enough ffs? He has been paid that to play football for the club and to do his best is expected. If his ego is as inflated as your opinion of him then he should **** off because we owe him nothing more than we are prepared or able to pay him.

As for your suggestions that we pay massive sums for star players at the expense of squad depth, have the mistakes of the past completely passed you by? We have been down that road and it led to near bankrupcy and didn't buy success. Why can't you see that?

 

Remember when i say only having a 22/23 man squad, that's only in senior players mate, 25 squad limit doesn't actually limit you to an overall number of 25 players, but 25 senior players.

 

Agreed. Really glad Tash isnt in charge of our finances as well.

 

Agreed, we'd be the new Portsmouth and then some.

Sometimes get so sick of the dross he posts.

Each to their own though I suppose.

 

50k is a good wage, but i reckon he's worth more.

And i'm not saying he's the only reason we've stayed up, but look at us without him! Complete ****!

We lacked any sort of creativity in most games without him and failed to win a game without his services.

So yes, i think most fans would agree he has been the main reason we've stayed up this season, his creativity and deliveries, then 2nd is Nolan's goals, but quite a few of them came from Carroll knocking down Barton's deliveries.

Barton isn't the only reason but he's been the MAIN reason.

Look at the bigger picture. The extra 10/15k we've been paying him this season wouldn't be a whisker on a fanny compared to what we'd lose if we got relegated again, which i garuntee would utter **** us financially.

Barton has been worth the extra wages he's been on, and if he takes a wage cut then fantastic but i wouldn't call him a greedy bastard if he asked to stay on what he's on now. He's earned it and put everything into his performances and defines the word dedicated and hard working player.

Sometimes players are truely worth the extra wages mate. I get what your saying about silly wages, but Barton would cost us more if he didn't play at all then if he did playing on an extra 15k a week.

 

I feel the same about you mate.