Eniola Aluko...

John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
Well, I watched the game when virtually the whole team ran over to Sampson and hugged him, which at the time must have felt a slap in the face for Aluko. I can remember feeling rather uneasy about the over zealous celebration. I said at the time, that these girls that did that would find it difficult to face Aluko in the future, and so it is proving.
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Has it not occurrd to you that it might fit exactly with their sentiments towards Aluko and, perhaps, their disappointment at losing a decent coach? Just maybe the slap was intentional and not regretted in any way.
 
Fez said:
Has it not occurrd to you that it might fit exactly with their sentiments towards Aluko and, perhaps, their disappointment at losing a decent coach? Just maybe the slap was intentional and not regretted in any way.
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I guess we may never know, but in time individual accounts may start to appear, then we might have a better idea what every bodies opinion was.

All I can say is that I have watched quite a lot of women's football both domestic and international, and up to Aluko being dropped from the squad, which now turns out to be because she accused Sampson of racism, and the FA obviously divulged that to him which was supposed to be a inside report on the goings on within the team, I never saw any bad feeling amongst the players to Aluko during games.
 
HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Its not a crime to prefer one colleague to another, they obviously wanted to support Sampson and not Aluko, they are free to make that choice. Aluko should respect that decision, if she wants to reintegrate with the team then she should put it in the past and move on.

She can feel upset or betrayed that they didn't support her but that doesn't make the other players wrong it just means Aluko overestimated what she meant to them in the first place.
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Well better we agree to disagree, I am still of the belief that Sampson had his favourites, and to a large degree was that you didn't step out of line or you would be out of the team. Hence the celebration, which turned out to be rather hollow with what came out just afterwards.
 
PLT said:
I feel the same way. She's constantly in the news and it seems like there doesn't even need to be a development in the story for it come up again and again. Thinking about how some stories get such little coverage (for example, people all over the country still don't understand what's going on with the Allams at City after 4 years of it.) Yet Aluko is still being given all this screentime to winge about her former team mates. I think if I got £80k in my back pocket on the condition that someone gets to call me a nasty name I'd be pretty satisfied with the deal overall.

The bit about homophobia is baffling. Is she saying race issues aren't taken as seriously? What planet is she on?
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You're a right **** PLT.
The cheque's in the mail :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
I guess we may never know, but in time individual accounts may start to appear, then we might have a better idea what every bodies opinion was.

All I can say is that I have watched quite a lot of women's football both domestic and international, and up to Aluko being dropped from the squad, which now turns out to be because she accused Sampson of racism, and the FA obviously divulged that to him which was supposed to be a inside report on the goings on within the team, I never saw any bad feeling amongst the players to Aluko during games.
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I think that Aluko's remarks speak volumes, even more than the silence of all other players except Aluko and her best mate. This stuff is all backroom and not game time.

Is there a copy of that (Aluko/FA) report in the public domain? It would be very interesting to know what else she has said...
 
Fez said:
I think that Aluko's remarks speak volumes, even more than the silence of all other players except Aluko and her best mate. This stuff is all backroom and not game time.

Is there a copy of that (Aluko/FA) report in the public domain? It would be very interesting to know what else she has said...
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I'm sure there were some who she didn't get on with and visa versa, that goes on in all dressing rooms. I just get the feeling that Aluko stood up to both Sampson and the FA, whereas the other girls towed the line as that was the best way to stay in favour. The fact that Sampson obviously kicked her out of the squad after he found out she had put in a complaint about him, shows what sort of guy he is, and anyone ruffling his feathers gets side lined.

I don't think there was ever any thoughts of the FA putting in the public domain, as it was supposed to be a quiet inside view on what does on. The FA made a mistake divulging this to Sampson, and when he kicked her out, they had no where to go, and hence the payment of £80K.
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
I'm sure there were some who she didn't get on with and visa versa, that goes on in all dressing rooms. I just get the feeling that Aluko stood up to both Sampson and the FA, whereas the other girls towed the line as that was the best way to stay in favour. The fact that Sampson obviously kicked her out of the squad after he found out she had put in a complaint about him, shows what sort of guy he is, and anyone ruffling his feathers gets side lined.

I don't think there was ever any thoughts of the FA putting in the public domain, as it was supposed to be a quiet inside view on what does on. The FA made a mistake divulging this to Sampson, and when he kicked her out, they had no where to go, and hence the payment of £80K.
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I do find your take on it strange, John.

Yes, there were a couple of comments made that were crass and worthy of addressing, but I personally do not believe they were sackable offences - nor did the FA, as they sacked him for an historic issue dealt with in a previous employment- his then employers dealt with it through training, not dismissal. No matter what your point of view, this whole process was just wrong.

Was Aluko a disruptove influence in the dressing room? Was she being divisive? Was she undermining his authority by doing this report? All of her actions since this broke do little to convince me she was not.

You seem intent to lynch Sampson on the basis of him dropping Aluko. Let us consider that Aluko might have been disruptive and divisive, then let us consider what Brown, Bruce, Ferguson and any other manager would do. The naughty step features often at most clubs. The fact she might have been in form is not the be all and end all. There was competition for the shirt, also. Perhaps tactics played a part; I don't know, but, perhaps the players do. It certainly turned out well, didn't it.
 
Fez said:
I do find your take on it strange, John.

Yes, there were a couple of comments made that were crass and worthy of addressing, but I personally do not believe they were sackable offences - nor did the FA, as they sacked him for an historic issue dealt with in a previous employment- his then employers dealt with it through training, not dismissal. No matter what your point of view, this whole process was just wrong.

Was Aluko a disruptove influence in the dressing room? Was she being divisive? Was she undermining his authority by doing this report? All of her actions since this broke do little to convince me she was not.

You seem intent to lynch Sampson on the basis of him dropping Aluko. Let us consider that Aluko might have been disruptive and divisive, then let us consider what Brown, Bruce, Ferguson and any other manager would do. The naughty step features often at most clubs. The fact she might have been in form is not the be all and end all. There was competition for the shirt, also. Perhaps tactics played a part; I don't know, but, perhaps the players do. It certainly turned out well, didn't it.
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It's an opinion Fez, I maybe right and I maybe wrong, but I just say it how I see it. Time will tell I guess who it closer to the mark, may turn out we both are in certain ways.
 
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
I think you could just about justify her actions up until this point, I didn't necessarily agree with them but they were understandable. However, this interview crosses the line from fighting that perceived injustice to causing trouble for the sake of attention.

Publicly calling out your team mates for not supporting you is the quickest way to isolate yourself further from the group. Whilst claiming you didn't want it to be a public matter and then doing extra interviews after the whole thing has finished is irony at its finest.

She needs to know when to quit, either she's loving the infamy or someone is giving her poor advice.
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She is a solicitor so she is maybe giving herself advice.
 
Not a Aluko matter, other than the article, particularly the latter half really highlights the ineptitude of the FA, and their reluctance to investigate and sort out matters that could be embarrassing for football as a whole. In doing this, they just make matter worse turning a blind eye to these situations, when finally the truth comes out they end up with egg on their faces.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/11/andy-woodward-one-year-on
 
England women's gk coach resigns now after admitting speaking to aluko in a mock Caribbean voice. Something Sampson denied any of his staff did.

This girls a brave little lass. Well done for standing up.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
England women's gk coach resigns now after admitting speaking to aluko in a mock Caribbean voice. Something Sampson denied any of his staff did.

This girls a brave little lass. Well done for standing up.
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I agree, I have said all along she has stood up to be counted, and it is all coming to pass that what she said was what actually happened. This in a strange way will just go to enhance her stock, and she has got a bright future ahead of her.
 
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Nonsense, the government Is doing nothing of the sort. One minister suggested they take Alukp up on her offer to help, in the same speech she also said it's not the governments place to get involved in sporting bodies.
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Happened to be the sport minister, not just anyone, so hardly nonsense. Anyhow TWT, I was just making the point that IMO there is no reason why she wouldn't get job in football.
 
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