Emergency loan?

Whether Pards etc fancied Kadar or not I think he's going to have to play next game, he's a CB and this is his chance to prove them wrong, if he does well I think him & Colo will be first choice pairing for rest of the season, left footed CB & all

 

Agree he should play, I'd bet that he's a lot better than one of our right backs playing centre back, and he is a full international after all.

 

2 x GK
4 x FB
4 x CB
4 x Wingers
4 x CM
4 x ST
3 x Versatile Players

That's what an ideal squad of 25 would be.

We have;

3 x GK (Harper, Elliot and Krul)
2 x FB (Simpson and Santon)
3 x CB (Colo, Willo, Taylor)
5 x CM (Cabaye, Tiote, Smith, Gosling, Guthrie)
4 x Wingers (Jonas, Obertan, Ben Arfa, Marv)
4 x ST (Ba, Best, Shola, Lover)
2 x Utility (Perchinho, Raylor)

Don't know who I've forgotten as that's not 25? Don't know the age cut off (e.g. Is Fergie registered or does he come in under the age limit?).

Anyway, it's as we all know. Woefully short at FB, and always vulnerable to injury and suspension at CB.

 

Is this the same Kadar who went on loan to Huddersfield last season?

 

To get first team football? And hardly lost a game while there. Yes that's the one

 

Nah we've got loads of Kadars. Understandable though, it's a very common name.

 

Santon can play anywhere across the back four, he is not just a FB that is one of pluses of signing him

 

Has Santon actually played centre back in a Serie A game before? All I've heard is references to U21/reserve/he's tall.

 

you could apply to the dss i'm sure they'll sort you out

 

Guessing you mean Williamson... Plus he will only be back in training in 2 weeks-ish so will need a few weeks in first team training as well before he can start.

Well Pardew has come out and said its a thigh strain so we do know whats wrong with him, theres only a small chance he will be fit for the next game so we still need to at least think about who to play next week.

 

I would swap Benny and Lover round as well .. i dont see Benny playing as a winger anytime soon and dont see Lover playing as a striker anytime soon.

 

Wasn't aware of Willo being injury prone - Will take your word for it.

No, that leaves three CBs. Perch and Santon are not CBs. Of the three remaining actual CBs, two are injury prone. It's not that unusual for two CBs to be unavailable, we had an issue last season where Willo and Colo both got suspended, and didn't really have adequate cover then (Campbell and half-fit Taylor), since then Campbell has left and no one has come in. That's not really acceptable considering the time and resources the club had.

I for one have always said a CB should be a higher priority than a RW or striker (once we had Ba in). Many others shared that opinion.

Again, I've been saying for months that we should have got another CB in, as suspensions or injuries would leave us very exposed. I said that even when we were winning. It doesn't mean I think Pardew is a bad manager, just that he and his assistants should've known better. They seemed to spend most of the window trying to convince Erdinc, Gervinho, and Gameiro to sign, even though it was always doubtful any of them would.

 

I dont know if it's troubled him for his whole career but he's had 2 identical arm injuries, bizarrely, while here and ****ed his ankle(?) in his first start this season for us.

 

Kadar is a CB and Perch is a utility defender able to play anywhere across the back four. That means we entered the season with five CB's and Simpson, Santon and Tavernier all who can also play there. To have more than five CB's would unbalance the squad.

Having your first three CB's injured at once is an unlucky and unlikely event. Squad size of 25 means we cannot go about having six or so players for every outfield position just on the off chance that such an unlikely event takes place.

So to suggest as some have that the manager has been negligent is in my opinion wrong. There is more strength to the argument that Perch and Kadar aren't good enough to be 4th and 5th choices but I actually quite rate Kadar and would like to see him given a chance.

I'll also repeat that CB was not considered a priority position by most of us during the window (ahead of ST, RW and LB) so it seems fickle to be acting so wise now. Edit: sorry KC I missed the next bit of your response. Fine if you felt otherwise but the majority by my reckoning were more concerned with filling other postitions. Some were pretty happy with the business done but most of those that were not were more concerned at failing to get another striker!

 

To be fair though, Perch is inadequate cover (and if we insist on using him, play him at DM) and Kadar is young enough that he doesnt take up a squad place. Most sides in the league have 4 recognised CBs, we have 3.

 

We have Cabaye, Guthrie, Gosling, Tiote, Smith, Abeid, Marveaux, Vukic and Ben Arfa who could all be used as central midfielders. From those Marveaux is used as a winger and Smith is deemed surplus. even using a five man midfield that's a lot more unbalanced. Of the listed defenders Kadar just isn't fancied, even in the summer that seemed the case. The others you can't deem as versatile when we lack bodies in the full back positions too. As signed players we have no left backs, three centrebacks, three right backs and one versatile fullback. That's 9 players to cover two positions in midfield and 7 players to cover 4 positions at the back. Even considering Ferguson as a left back, he got injured in pre season and was never deemed a starter for this season anyway.

 

Nope. Not pardew's fault.

 

Kadar is a CB that has barely any experience, and has picked up quite a number of injuries during his time here, and also seemingly doesn't have the backing of the manager. Perch may be able to play anywhere across the back four, but based on what he's shown he's not Premiership quality in any of those positions. Simpson and Santon aren't CBs, and I really don't think Simpson has the physical qualities needed for the position. Tavernier has very little experience, and as with Simpson is a little on the short side for a CB.

It is unlucky, and yes to have them all injured is unlikely - It wasn't that unlikely that Taylor in particular would miss some time through injury though, nor was it unlikely for either of the other two to miss games through suspension. Which ever way they're unvailable, the fact remains that there isn't adequate cover.

I'd say the fact that he's relying on players who aren't good enough is enough proof that he's been negligent (though I think the blame falls on the whole management team rather than solely on Pardew). Kadar's ability so far is unknown - But it seems like Pardew has no faith in him, in which case he shouldn't be relying on him.

 

the options seem to be

perch santon (least he'll give you the height)

perch kadar

santon kadar

simmo perch

simmo kadar etc.etc.

or draft in the young uns with no first team experience Folan,Dummett (non starter injured)Tavernier,Henderson both on loan,not really in favour of some of those pairings but Williamson isn't fit so it doesn't look too good for options

 

If we expected to have a go in the cups we should have had more than 3 CBs that we felt we could rely on.