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[alwaysright]

I thought that the aeroplane with the banner ' TIME FOR CHANGE SCALLY OUT' was embarrassing enough - but-
Then we have the penalty 'fiasco.' Lloyd grabbing the match ball - whilst Oliver tries to grab Lloyd by 'the balls' in his attempt to claim the right to take the spot kick......and still throwing his dummy away whilst the rest of the team celebrate with Lloyd.

...... what a nonsense - The situation should NEVER have arisen... It beggars belief that the matter was not sorted after the Wycombe game last week.... instead of two 'grown' adults acting like petulant children...

So.... Who should take the next penalty ?..... and any suggestions as to 'style' - personally I would prefer 'power' - down the middle -- most keepers tend to dive to one side.... and with power, there is always a good chance of a rebound 'tap-in.'

 

[brb]

All an assumption on my part...

Oliver missed the penalty against Wycombe so probably would liked to have had chance to redeem himself, so it's the honourable thing to put yourself forward again.

Lloyd recognises we play as a team and every player should step forward with broad shoulders, thus taking 'any miss' pressure off the big man.

Who should take the next penalty, always the player that scored the last penalty. Then once Lloyd misses he can pass it back to Oliver or another broad shouldered Gills player.

As for style, I don't care as long has it hits the back of the net.

 

[alwaysright]

Own goal - Nobody likes to see that - and usually there is no doubt about the identity of the scorer!

ANY winning goal for The Gills is welcome at the moment - regardless of which player is 'credited.' ...I hope that Oliver isn't getting a persecution complex - as others in the side are 'robbing' him of the chance to score from a penalty - and now 'stealing' a goal because of a deflection of his header........... I don't care as long as the ball goes in the net - enough times to secure L1 safety this season.......

The players need to ensure that they do not score own goals - No fan like to see own goals by their team - even the ones being scored OFF the pitch.

Anyone can be a plaintiff - and try to take 'legal' action against an accused. The action against anyone accused of a criminal offence, or a civil offence, or to justify an 'exclusion' from a premises to which the public have access ( on payment or otherwise ) must have evidence to succeed. Without sufficient evidence it is doomed to failure - and could lead to counter action for malicious 'prosecution' or discriminatory behaviour ( a-la-McCammon. )

Mr. Scally has made it clear that he is upset by recent personal criticisms and behaviour towards his family... I can understand that - even if he cannot understand the reasons for fans' displeasure... He is perfectly at liberty to take, or threaten to take action for what he perceives as Libel / Slander or unjustified defamation..... but he will need evidence.

Mr. Scally, in his latest 'Chat' has made it clear that he intends to pursue action against the perpetrators of libellous and slanderous 'thuggery' towards him. He rightly claims that some of the behaviour towards him and his family is vile and disgusting..... but has he stooped to the level of these 'thugs?'

Mr. Scally has, in my opinion, placed himself and the Club in a potentially dangerous position - Has Mr. Scally scored an own goal! .. He has named Graham '' Fred'' Perry as an instigator of recent 'hate' from fans. Mr. Scally has basically accused Mr. Perry of incitement ( criminal conspiracy ), of criminality - violence towards staff at the ground ( stewards in the stadium, and staff in the Factory. ) These accusations are serious - punishable with a custodial sentence - if there is sufficient evidence. ...Mr. Perry has responded to the accusations against him. He has stated that he is not personally responsible for the behaviour by people in the stadium or the Factory... He admits his involvement in the 'aeroplane' (peaceful) protest - as his right to 'free' speech - which did not amount to anything actionable in law..... because there is no evidence.

I would have thought that Mr. Scally has had sufficient experience in the High Court to understand that he needs to provide evidence to substantiate his accusations against Mr.Perry - or face the possible legal consequences - from action that Mr. Perry can take for any 'thuggish' behaviour against HIM - especially if HIS accuser is proving evidence in the form of unsubstantiated malicious and thuggish 'slander.'

..... please, Mr. Scally - be careful what YOU say - I don't want GFC to score own goals - by a player called 'Hypocrite.'

 

[brb]

You are right, Mr Perry can only be responsible for his own actions, he cannot be accountable for the actions of others. any disturbance within the Factory, is down to individual actions. Much the same as you can't prosecute Trump for every single person that caused damage in the Capitol building. By saying this I'm also NOT suggesting that Mr Perry has done any wrong doing either. If I protest against the Chairman, that's down to me, not down to the person that might suggest to me it's the right thing to do.

The Chairman went over and spoke to some of the supporters last night, that's a proactive engagement and much welcomed.

 

[gioblues]

Own goal - Nobody likes to see that - and usually there is no doubt about the identity of the scorer!

ANY winning goal for The Gills is welcome at the moment - regardless of which player is 'credited.' ...I hope that Oliver isn't getting a persecution complex - as others in the side are 'robbing' him of the chance to score from a penalty - and now 'stealing' a goal because of a deflection of his header........... I don't care as long as the ball goes in the net - enough times to secure L1 safety this season.......

The players need to ensure that they do not score own goals - No fan like to see own goals by their team - even the ones being scored OFF the pitch.

Anyone can be a plaintiff - and try to take 'legal' action against an accused. The action against anyone accused of a criminal offence, or a civil offence, or to justify an 'exclusion' from a premises to which the public have access ( on payment or otherwise ) must have evidence to succeed. Without sufficient evidence it is doomed to failure - and could lead to counter action for malicious 'prosecution' or discriminatory behaviour ( a-la-McCammon. )

Mr. Scally has made it clear that he is upset by recent personal criticisms and behaviour towards his family... I can understand that - even if he cannot understand the reasons for fans' displeasure... He is perfectly at liberty to take, or threaten to take action for what he perceives as Libel / Slander or unjustified defamation..... but he will need evidence.

Mr. Scally, in his latest 'Chat' has made it clear that he intends to pursue action against the perpetrators of libellous and slanderous 'thuggery' towards him. He rightly claims that some of the behaviour towards him and his family is vile and disgusting..... but has he stooped to the level of these 'thugs?'

Mr. Scally has, in my opinion, placed himself and the Club in a potentially dangerous position - Has Mr. Scally scored an own goal! .. He has named Graham '' Fred'' Perry as an instigator of recent 'hate' from fans. Mr. Scally has basically accused Mr. Perry of incitement ( criminal conspiracy ), of criminality - violence towards staff at the ground ( stewards in the stadium, and staff in the Factory. ) These accusations are serious - punishable with a custodial sentence - if there is sufficient evidence. ...Mr. Perry has responded to the accusations against him. He has stated that he is not personally responsible for the behaviour by people in the stadium or the Factory... He admits his involvement in the 'aeroplane' (peaceful) protest - as his right to 'free' speech - which did not amount to anything actionable in law..... because there is no evidence.

I would have thought that Mr. Scally has had sufficient experience in the High Court to understand that he needs to provide evidence to substantiate his accusations against Mr.Perry - or face the possible legal consequences - from action that Mr. Perry can take for any 'thuggish' behaviour against HIM - especially if HIS accuser is proving evidence in the form of unsubstantiated malicious and thuggish 'slander.'

..... please, Mr. Scally - be careful what YOU say - I don't want GFC to score own goals - by a player called 'Hypocrite.'

Yes Mr Perry is very clever in his replays. Very knowledgeable guy. However also very cunning what he says. Say no more

 

[alwaysright]

Yes Mr Perry is very clever in his replays. Very knowledgeable guy. However also very cunning what he says. Say no more

Silence is golden
The problems, ( legally), for Mr. Scally & GFC, are that Mr. Scally cannot make accusations that he cannot prove ( malicious ), and Mr. Perry does not have to prove his innocence ( which, it appears, he can.) .... The scenario leaves Mr. Scally and GFC open to litigation - with Mr. Scally providing the evidence against him.........
........ A lot of fans might complain when Mr. Scally is uncommunicative - but sometimes he would be better off keeping his mouth shut.

 

[itstimupnorth]

Those among us who are cracking on a bit, and those who have or have had elderly parents, will know that skin does actually get thinner and more susceptible to damage with age.

Mr Scally is getting older