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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Knock knock…the future has arrived!

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    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    I have always liked the idea of hydrogen powered vehicles .

    I can’t help but think that it will never be successful as so many people have invested so much in electric .
     
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    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Electric cars was only a temporary solution, the concept that they are “green” is laughable.
     
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    Electric was pushed wrongly imo, it was never the answer
     
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    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Oh I completely agree , at work I was the only person in our group who said “ go and look at what is involved in making a battery and what’s used to get it to your charging point at home , then tell me it’s green “

    Nobody was interested .
     
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    People just pretend what happens before the car lands on their drive doesn't happen, they just love to virtue signal about how they care and how green they are.
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Self raising Flour water bit of salt ? piece of piss
     
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    Now all most people need is for their 6 numbers to come up.
     
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  9. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    Like all tech the price starts high & rapidly falls.
    Do you remember the price of colour TVs or VHS when first launched……now you can buy a LCD TV for less than a ton
     
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    All we need now is a few more hydrogen filling stations.
     
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  11. Ron Burguvdy

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    Look to the second hand market...

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  12. Cityzen

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    I do. I remember walking past a TV shop with a colour TV in the window showing Wimbledon. Everyone stopping as it was the first glimpse of a colour TV we had seen. First electric calculator we got at work, the size of couple of bricks and could only do basic calculations, cost more than the managers weekly wage.
    The figures below are illuminating. In reality they were even more expensive as the figures are only adjusted for inflation. In 1967 the average wage was just over £1000 so a colour TV was about 30% of a yearly wage, equivalent to about £9,000 or so now. I remember my uncle, a company director, getting a Dynatron whose fancy wooden case was bigger than the screen and the picture was awful and it cost £350. My dad thought he was crackers although he could well afford it. It was 7 years until my dad got one.
    Of course housing for one thing was a lot less back then.
    Television
    Televisions were expensive in the 1960s. A black and white set cost cost about £70 (or over £1000 allowing for inflation).

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    Televisions were expensive in the 1960s
    Colour TV started in 1967. A colour TV set was very expensive. In 1968 a Baird 701 cost £279, or £3200 in today's money. TV sets in those days were unreliable, so you would have to budget for some high repair bills and an extra £5 for a colour television licence.[1]

    Many people chose to rent rather than buy a TV in the 1960s. If you rented a colour set it cost from 30s to 40s a week. (£1.50 to £2). In today's money that would be £17 to £23.
     
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  13. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    without a doubt…the infrastructure will follow….what came first the petrol station or the petrol engine….
    It’s always the same
     
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    I don't know what has to happen for the energy companies to decide that hydrogen is a goer. From what I've heard hydrogen is expensive to transport and store because of it's volatility so building a national distribution network will cost squillions.
     
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    same as petrol then….isnt that a highly flammable liquid.
     
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    I think it's more complex than that, liquid hydrogen is easier to transport but cars would use gas hydrogen. This has to transported in cryogenic containers which are more expensive than petrol tankers. Best way would be to ship it underground in pipelines, I'd guess the cost of that would be eye-watering. I'm no expert and I'm sure these issues can be overcome if the will is there, which it doesn't seem to be at the moment.
     
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    Haven’t seen a petrol bomb do this though.

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  18. dennisboothstash

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    £55k new ?
    Expensive, sure, but there’s a lot more expensive cars on the road than that already.
    ignoring the lack of infrastructure I was expecting a much higher price than that tbh
     
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    You need rather more than hydrogen to achieve fusion. Enough people are struggling to achieve it at the moment
     
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    How Much is a New Car? Starting Prices for Popular Cars
    Small £19,000 - £25,000
    Medium £26,000 - £28,000
    SUV £26,000 - £32,000

    Average UK wage = £28k
     
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