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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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I couldn't give a toss how many wind turbines they've blighted the Cornwall countryside with if it costs the taxpayer more and still leads to a global net rise in pollution. It is the epitome of vanity politics.

We’ve got quite a lot of wind farms down here. Makes sense we are one of the windiest counties in the UK.

Personally I’d like to see more, and small scale systems where a turbine can power the houses for a small village.

Far from being vanity politics as you put it, the UK produced 52.5% of its electricity from renewables last year. A lot of it from offshore wind farms like the ones in the North Sea.
 
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We’ve got quite a lot of wind farms down here. Makes sense we are one of the windiest counties in the UK.

Personally I’d like to see more, and small scale systems where a turbine can power the houses for a small village.

Far from being vanity politics as you put it, the UK produced 52.5% of its electricity from renewables last year. A lot of it from offshore wind farms like the ones in the North Sea.
and a fat lof good it does us as consumers due to the bizarre way energy prices are set here .

Gas-Led Pricing: Under the UK's "marginal pricing" system, the most expensive source of generation required to meet demand sets the price for all electricity. Because the UK relies heavily on gas-fired power plants, and gas sets the market price about 98% of the time, cheap renewable energy does not lower consumer bills.
 
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I wonder what emissions this world cup has added to planet Earth, and the next world world cup. At least the BBC stayed at home in Salford....yet still jetted Shearer out there, that was one contribution that wouldn't have been missed if that **** had stayed at home as well.

He does seem to excel in the field of 'stating the ****ing obvious' ...
 
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and a fat lof good it does us as consumers due to the bizarre way energy prices are set here .

Gas-Led Pricing: Under the UK's "marginal pricing" system, the most expensive source of generation required to meet demand sets the price for all electricity. Because the UK relies heavily on gas-fired power plants, and gas sets the market price about 98% of the time, cheap renewable energy does not lower consumer bills.
Yep, it’s a ridiculous system to tie it into gas prices.
 
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Yep, it’s a ridiculous system to tie it into gas prices.

Not ridiculous if like me you believe that most if not all politicians only pass policies that serve the interests of a fraction of the population, a problem exacerbated by the rapid privatisation of every major industry in this country.

We've got Thatcher to blame for British Gas. Now owned by Centrica, who average £900m in profit per year.
 
Reading some of the **** that Al Carns is posting on X and the like, sort of like his "manifesto if I somehow ever beat Andy Burnham" it reads a bit like a Dad using Chatgpt for the first time in their life.

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Lol, this one is ridiculous:
4️⃣ The 10% Test
Can we make the country work 10% better, instead of only ever asking for 10% more? I saw this from the inside. We patch the symptom this year, but the bill grows next year, and we end up paying for failure at the most expensive end of every system. A 10% improvement in outcomes across a handful of our biggest problems, ill health, reoffending, wasted potential, would free up somewhere between £40 and £60 billion a year. We're already paying those costs. We just pay them too late, when they're at their worst. Passing this means investing early instead of paying far more later, and having the honesty to admit that not every pound we spend today delivers an immediate return.

Alright Al, I think everyone agrees, we should just make everything a bit better. I'll call Keir and say "don't resign, we figured it out, just make everything a bit better than it is now"
 
We've been bombing the **** out of Gaza, Iran and Lebanon, while the Iranians have been lobbing missiles all over the shop and blowing up tankers. Russians and Ukraine are lobbing stuff at one another, and have been for years now. We must be seeing more space rockets launch than ever seen before, test ones, failed ones, ones that succeeded, burn baby burn, and the little ole UK thinks our net zero will save the planet somehow. <laugh>
TBF brb, it’s not either or. We do need energy independence, and like any new initiative (relatively speaking) there will be some pain. Absolutely worth it it in my opinion.
 
Probably the only decent thread on GC is the net zero one. I don't contribute often but there are some genuinely interesting takes and insights there.

Recommended.

Anyone who thinks any politician with any semblance of power ever acts in the best interests of the common people is an absolute buffoon.

I totally disagree with their politics, but this is why people like Corbyn and Sanders will never hold any real power. Forget the premiership itself. I mean any power whatsoever. Because they are a rare breed of politician who actually care about the people they represent. Not a chance the money men allow people like that into power.

Miliband is part of the establishment working to make sure the big corporations continue to outsource pollution for extravagant profits, while we all foot the bill with constant energy bill increases and 20p bags in shops, because that's really going to make all the difference.

You haven't contributed at all, well unless you have another account and the only two accounts I don't know on there are both racists. :bandit:
 
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TBF brb, it’s not either or. We do need energy independence, and like any new initiative (relatively speaking) there will be some pain. Absolutely worth it it in my opinion.

If there's a positive that comes out of the war in Ukraine and the tensions in the middle east, is that it pushes us more quickly for energy independence. The UK is so well placed for wind and hydro energy and whilst it may never provide 100% of our energy needs. It can provide the vast majority of it.

52.5% last year for electricity generated by wind. That's such an encouraging move. We now produce 0% from coal and it became obsolete for producing electricity in 2024

I know there's examples around the world that make it look like it's a drop in the ocean, but imo we can only do what we think is best for the UK and I'm really encouraged to see that we're cracking on with it.

Like Solid mentioned though, we absolutely have to decouple gas prices from electricity prices if UK consumers are going to be able to take advantage of cheap electricity production.
 
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Was just looking at the latest channel crossings, 1,394 in the last seven days. 20 boats in total. Seems like they are not being deterred.
 
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Was just looking at the latest channel crossings, 1,394 in the last seven days. 20 boats in total. Seems like they are not being deterred.

Soon all be sorted... and in an 'environmentally friendly' way....

 
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