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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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I do wonder now how much of this Epstein stuff also feeds into our own grooming gangs, hence why there has been so many attempts at cover ups over it, or attempts at diluting it.
 
I can only imagine for Epstein to keep so much material it was being used for future blackmail - that would include against the British establishment, we need to deworm our democracy.
We cant

all western political systems have been compromised for at least the last 20 years.

It’s how you own politicians and therefore governments regardless of who the public put in power
 
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another victim claiming she was flown to the uk to **** Andy


She bout to get suicided just like Virginia
 
Makes a nice side distraction from Fosse's points deduction and subsequent relegation that's why mate.

<laugh>... muppet

I'm one of the few on here (outside of the buy the trophy fans) who can go to the next world with their 'wildest' footie dreams fulfilled...

1966 World Cup
1997 League Cup
2000 League Cup
2016 Premier League
2021 FA Cup

I didn't choose my club - it chose me - from October 1959 at Leicester's City General Hospital ...

Yes I'm still passionate about them and always will be - but readily accept the ups and downs ...

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We can't impact that, we can though put pressure on our own government and all our politicians and royalty. They are hiding something imho....when I say that, I'm suggesting our own British establishment is protecting people and we need to find out who they are, America can deal with it's own dregs in life. I will not believe anything our MP's say, too many people trying to cover up **** or redacting stuff. Oh I don't remember the photo type BS.

All Epstein docs must be published and anybody mentioned / named needs to account for why they are ... if you didn't do anything wrong, stand up and say so...

Hopefully there is enough global public pressure to force that ...
 
<laugh>... muppet

I'm one of the few on here (outside of the buy the trophy fans) who can go to the next world with their 'wildest' footie dreams fulfilled...

1966 World Cup
1997 League Cup
2000 League Cup
2016 Premier League
2021 FA Cup

I didn't choose my club - it chose me - from October 1959 at Leicester's City General Hospital ...

Yes I'm still passionate about them and always will be - but readily accept the ups and downs ...

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No CL and lestah have never won a WC
 
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All Epstein docs must be published and anybody mentioned / named needs to account for why they are ... if you didn't do anything wrong, stand up and say so...

Hopefully there is enough global public pressure to force that ...
Mandelson had plenty of opportunity to speak to the media and declined the questions. On more than one ocassion I have seen him given the opportunity to speak publically and on both ocassions he just kept stum and scurried off - just like his nickname the Prince of Darkness. He's done himself no favours. I wonder if his hubby repaid the £10k he received, was it declared, afterall it influenced him enough directly to want to change government policy. Bankers bonuses, ****ing hell, of all policies to want to change, immediately after the financial crash as well, when people were losing the roofs over their heads. Not suggesting he commited any crime, but this stinks. Also it was a conflict of interest that put him in a situation that made him subject to risk, which we are seeing the consequences of now. It could all be lies, but he allowed himself to be compromised - if he didn't his husband certainly did. MP's as always looking after their own and will try and blanket it just like when Starmer appointed him, despite being advised otherwise.
 
And don't even get me started on Andrew, and if this occured at the Palace then people within it know a lot more than we've been told. Absolute ****ing disgrace right at the very top, and I suspect throughout the whole of the establishment.
 
I think this counts as the second time brb has accused me of being a peado on here <laugh>
 
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The Media have JP Morgan bank statements, which are probably now available on the internet of Mandelson receiving various sums up to the value of $75,000 - Mandelson has asked for these statements to be authenticated by the bank, seemingly suggesting they are fake as the detail within them is inaccurate.
 
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I think the thing for me looking at all the documents and certainly around tax avoidance and Brazil, if it's all lies, someone has gone to a hell of a lot of trouble to stitch him up - also not forgetting the photo, that he also don't recall and could potentially be fake. Also the bank statements that are being checked for authenticity, the question has to be why has someone gone to this level of a stitch up. If proven to be lies, how many other things were lies, example being the photo that Andrew also had no recollection of some years back. We can't defend those that suit us versus those that don't. Everything has to come into question.
 
Mandelson is a bit before my time tbh, I didn't even remember him being a cabinet minister.

Was he so important? Genuinely asking.

Just checked and see he was quite high up in the Brown government. Surprised I don't remember him doing much.
 
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Mandelson is a bit before my time tbh, I didn't even remember him being a cabinet minister.

Was he so important? Genuinely asking.

Just checked and see he was quite high up in the Brown government. Surprised I don't remember him doing much.

Was a real Guru type figure back in the day - finger in every pie
 
Rafah border is open again

Palestine Hate marchers off you ****
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Mandelson is a bit before my time tbh, I didn't even remember him being a cabinet minister.

Was he so important? Genuinely asking.

Just checked and see he was quite high up in the Brown government. Surprised I don't remember him doing much.
I remembered him as soon as Starmer brought him back. Always seemed on the wrong team to me, more like a Tory, but suppose that was the makeup of the Blair government back them with so many to the centre.

I refuse to believe that from the British perspective this only involved Andrew and Mandelson, it's already on record that some past MP's were into child grooming/fiddling and at least one high profile one died I believe before ever coming to light.

I'm a bit concerned with the Keir Starmer stance in telling Andrew to come forward, which he should btw, but my concern is is this deflection, there is just no way I believe from a political perspective that this just stopped at Mandelson.

Look how long Saville managed to hide his crimes, look how many people were suspicious of him and never came forward, for fear of speaking out. One celebrity I can never forgive for not speaking out.

We've had instances of kids being trafficked from care homes in London to homes on the shores of the South East, again the guilty parties died before the crimes were ever uncovered.

What with all the noise over the grooming gangs and what I see as the attempted dilution, and certain MP's allowed that to boil into something it should never of become.

This goes deep into our establishment, I don't trust the ****ers and I don't trust anything they say, question everything.

Don't let Trump become a deflection for our own failings, for the crimes our own establishment has commited, don't let the noise dilute anything that has gone on in the UK, the people who have commited crimes here would love nothing more than that...

Because if we do allow them to dilute what has gone on here, then kids will continue to be abused on our own island.

I'll add finally my own opinion is Mandelson resigned to save Keir Starmer, because if Keir had to sack him, then the back benchers would have been calling for Starmers neck. Everything you see is political games.
 
I remembered him as soon as Starmer brought him back. Always seemed on the wrong team to me, more like a Tory, but suppose that was the makeup of the Blair government back them with so many to the centre.

I refuse to believe that from the British perspective this only involved Andrew and Mandelson, it's already on record that some past MP's were into child grooming/fiddling and at least one high profile one died I believe before ever coming to light.

I'm a bit concerned with the Keir Starmer stance in telling Andrew to come forward, which he should btw, but my concern is is this deflection, there is just no way I believe from a political perspective that this just stopped at Mandelson.

Look how long Saville managed to hide his crimes, look how many people were suspicious of him and never came forward, for fear of speaking out. One celebrity I can never forgive for not speaking out.

We've had instances of kids being trafficked from care homes in London to homes on the shores of the South East, again the guilty parties died before the crimes were ever uncovered.

What with all the noise over the grooming gangs and what I see as the attempted dilution, and certain MP's allowed that to boil into something it should never of become.

This goes deep into our establishment, I don't trust the ****ers and I don't trust anything they say, question everything.

Don't let Trump become a deflection for our own failings, for the crimes our own establishment has commited, don't let the noise dilute anything that has gone on in the UK, the people who have commited crimes here would love nothing more than that...

Because if we do allow them to dilute what has gone on here, then kids will continue to be abused on our own island.

I'll add finally my own opinion is Mandelson resigned to save Keir Starmer, because if Keir had to sack him, then the back benchers would have been calling for Starmers neck. Everything you see is political games.

I'm having trouble formulating my thoughts on this matter as it's complete insanity, all of it.

I've slowly been reading more and more of the files as the days have gone by and some of the things are so outlandish it's hard for me to believe. That is in absolutely no way me saying it ISN'T true, but just that my apparently innocent brain just cannot wrap my head around it. Like, I've seen accusations of Trump was involved with a murder on that Island, as was Andrew.

This all seems completely unbelievable but it's right there and the authorities have been investigating it all. Tbh, I'm just starting to think its all true, why else would Trump try and block it?

Even peaceful Norway has been in the files, with it appearing as if the Crown Princess was good friends with Epstein and possibly had a fling with the guys. I've read the emails and it's completely ****ing mental.
 
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