Election 2024

[Welshie]

Probably right but should have had a 12 month assesment where people went round asking the question "what exactly do you do" to each employee so as to decide who if any were needed.

Grifters can answer that question super easy is the problem.

A really busy person, what they do is evident and the question just doesn't even need to be considered. I work a lot and if someone sat down and asked me "what is it you do for this company" I'd probably only be able to reply with "a ****ing lot."

 

[Diego]

Grifters can answer that question super easy is the problem.

A really busy person, what they do is evident and the question just doesn't even need to be considered. I work a lot and if someone sat down and asked me "what is it you do for this company" I'd probably only be able to reply with "a ****ing lot."

 

[Diego]

I think the problem is councils and government just spunk money down the drain, Italy have the mafia, we just have out and out lying crooks who feed money to their mates.

Seriously mate you are spot on.
In the last few months Bury council have had Pilsworth road dug up for weeks with temp traffic lights causing chaos in the mornings and night by breaking down at rush hour.
What was all this for? to put a 3mtr bend in the road to accomodate a flower bed

Same council spent millions a few years back (and again caused chaos for 2 years)) putting bike lanes in a busy road outside the town hall. I use that road very often and have never seen a single bike use the lanes.

 

[duggie2000]

Seriously mate you are spot on.
In the last few months Bury council have had Pilsworth road dug up for weeks with temp traffic lights causing chaos in the mornings and night by breaking down at rush hour.
What was all this for? to put a 3mtr bend in the road to accomodate a flower bed

Same council spent millions a few years back (and again caused chaos for 2 years)) putting bike lanes in a busy road outside the town hall. I use that road very often and have never seen a single bike use the lanes.

The problem is the way the Budgets are allocated to Councils (unless it has changed in the last thirty years), each Council is given a budget calculated on needs and previous budgets, if the Council underspends the budget is reduced as they dont need as much, if they overspend they are fined for misusing their Budget so what Councils used to do was spend the minimum until Feb/March and then go on a mass spending spree to use all the remaining budget

Whoever devised this system should be locked away in a mental asylum or as it is known now Care in the Community

 

[FosseFilberto]

I think it's great to see that old timers like Duggie still have the fire in their belly.

...well the one from the Beano collection has obviously gone out ...

 

[FosseFilberto]

I was thinking back to when I could have had welfare support, but was lucky to continue working and was able to apply for a blue badge while on dialysis to part at the doors of the dialysis unit and if out shopping. Returned it a week after getting home from transplant.

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That thing was the most traumatic experience of my life, didn’t know what to expect, but when he said I will cut into your jugular to access your heart…..I wished I had taken the ‘sedative’ they suggested

one day I may not be able to work, if labour **** this up, I would struggle to ever vote for them again. They need to remeber their roots and how and why…

Fair play ... but if you want to compare scars, I raise you having your sternum sawn through, prized open and put back ... just grateful my surgeon must have been an avid fan of The Great British Sewing Bee

 

[BobbyD]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/youth-unemployment-rate-education-b2709565.html

One million youth not working or education. Surely some of the cutbacks are to force them into work?

We want free nhs, we want well looked after elderly, we want benefits for the unemployed, we want kids to all go to school, we want more prisons, more police, free 24 hour care for old people.

Something's got to give.

 

[FosseFilberto]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/youth-unemployment-rate-education-b2709565.html

One million youth not working or education. Surely some of the cutbacks are to force them into work?

We want free nhs, we want well looked after elderly, we want benefits for the unemployed, we want kids to all go to school, we want more prisons, more police, free 24 hour care for old people.

Something's got to give.

Part of an endemic problem in the UK - the only goal of some school leavers is to sign on ...

 

[PINKIE]

Fair play ... but if you want to compare scars, I raise you having your sternum sawn through, prized open and put back ... just grateful my surgeon must have been an avid fan of The Great British Sewing Bee

My friend had a triple bypass yesterday. He's on ICU at the moment. Spoke to him before he went in for the op and he was in good spirits, very positive about it all as he sees it as dodging a bullet.

 

[PINKIE]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/youth-unemployment-rate-education-b2709565.html

One million youth not working or education. Surely some of the cutbacks are to force them into work?

We want free nhs, we want well looked after elderly, we want benefits for the unemployed, we want kids to all go to school, we want more prisons, more police, free 24 hour care for old people.

Something's got to give.

Billionaire tax breaks ?

All of those things we see as free, are of course paid for via taxes. And whilst I'm not advocating just paying people to not work, as I think everybody should contribute. We could raise a wealth tax on the ultra wealthy

A tax of 1-2% on assets over £10m would raise £50bn per year

And the interest alone on those sorts of investments would more than cover the extra tax these people would pay.

 

[FosseFilberto]

My friend had a triple bypass yesterday. He's on ICU at the moment. Spoke to him before he went in for the op and he was in good spirits, very positive about it all as he sees it as dodging a bullet.

He'll be very sore (understatement) for a few weeks - worse thing about the recovery is that you inevitably get a cough straight away as your body seeks to expel the gunk that has built up during the op etc and has now settled on your chest / lungs - when I first woke up the nurses quickly gave me a rolled up bath towel that had been taped and told me to clutch it to my chest every time I needed to cough ... ****ing agony that part - but something that is necessary... morphine helps ..all the best to your mate

 

[PINKIE]

He'll be very sore (understatement) for a few weeks - worse thing about the recovery is that you inevitably get a cough straight away as your body seeks to expel the gunk that has built up during the op etc and has now settled on your chest / lungs - when I first woke up the nurses quickly gave me a rolled up bath towel that had been taped and told me to clutch it to my chest every time I needed to cough ... ****ing agony that part - but something that is necessary... morphine helps ..all the best to your mate

Thanks mate.

I need him to be better soon as he play Saxaphone in the band.

That will be his motive to recover I'm sure

 

[Bodinki]

A tax of 1-2% on assets over £10m would raise £50bn per year

Thank you!
Been saying the same thing for years.
Thats why it pisses me off that they do these "reforms" to benefits to save a Billion here and a billion there, where as one simple tax of 1% on the ultra ultra wealthy (we are talking people with net worths in the hundreds of millions and billions) would generate 20 times the amount that these reforms would.
Also its going to cost a billion quid to implement these so called benefit reforms anyway so right out the gate you are setting yourself back a billion! Seems utter madness to me.

 

[PINKIE]

Thank you!
Been saying the same thing for years.
Thats why it pisses me off that they do these "reforms" to benefits to save a Billion here and a billion there, where as one simple tax of 1% on the ultra ultra wealthy (we are talking people with net worths in the hundreds of millions and billions) would generate 20 times the amount that these reforms would.
Also its going to cost a billion quid to implement these so called benefit reforms anyway so right out the gate you are setting yourself back a billion! Seems utter madness to me.

I want to see a Labour Govt doing this, but I'm not sure Starmer will

As much as people slated Corbyn and McDonnell, they made it clear from the outset that the very wealthy had rigged the system to benefit themselves at the expense of everybody else's public services, and that they would implement a wealth tax on these people.

 

[luvgonzo]

Billionaire tax breaks ?

All of those things we see as free, are of course paid for via taxes. And whilst I'm not advocating just paying people to not work, as I think everybody should contribute. We could raise a wealth tax on the ultra wealthy

A tax of 1-2% on assets over £10m would raise £50bn per year

And the interest alone on those sorts of investments would more than cover the extra tax these people would pay.

I think the mistake Labour are making right now is not going after the people who can afford to pay more. Their plans regarding benefits are also needed but they've been daft enough to go after pensioners then people on benefits before the people who probably could take a hit. If done the other way around people would still moan but there would at least be done sense in their approach.

 

[Bodinki]

I think the mistake Labour are making right now is not going after the people who can afford to pay more. Their plans regarding benefits are also needed but they've been daft enough to go after pensioners then people on benefits before the people who probably could take a hit. If done the other way around people would still moan but there would at least be done sense in their approach.

Like I said though, he is going after the vulnerable earlier on in the election cycle, as the hope is people will forget about it in 3 years time when the next GE rolls around. You dont want to go INTO a new GE on the back of having ****ed over a bunch of elderly and disabled people......that isnt going to do much for your poll ratings!
Unfortunately this tactic does work. All it takes is for something ****ing ******ed like a flair up in Gaza to make everyone forget about the **** the government is pulling right in our back yard, this very thread proved that yesterday
This is also one of the reason why people despise politicians, because they always put their own interests first. They cannot do anything that might jeopardise their chances of re-election, even if its good for the people to do so.

 

[brb]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/youth-unemployment-rate-education-b2709565.html

One million youth not working or education. Surely some of the cutbacks are to force them into work?

We want free nhs, we want well looked after elderly, we want benefits for the unemployed, we want kids to all go to school, we want more prisons, more police, free 24 hour care for old people.

Something's got to give.

It will not let me read the article, but I suppose the first question I would ask, is there the jobs for these youngsters to go into (geographically), especially if they have no qualifications or further education. I'm thinking back, wasn't it a policy one time that kids couldn't leave school until they had a job, up to the age of 18, maybe that still exists?

My worry is it is not like in my day where labour hands were needed, today we have a lot of automation and it's only going to get worse, and that really concerns me for the youngsters of the future. The days of youngsters, mainly female going on the checkouts has been replaced by self-service. Supermarket deliveries, although they need drivers, some of the picking warehouses now are fully automated. I suppose they could go do farm work, but that's seasonal.

Also the future is looking bleak for the kids when it comes to pensions, if I was a young person going into work now, I'd be thinking it's unlikely I'll ever retire, not that you think of these things as a kid starting out, but there really isn't much incentive to work, when the goalposts keep getting moved and the forecast is constant doom and gloom.

Sadly covid started this ball rolling, we locked everyone down, now we are paying the price for that, and until government think up genuine fixes that are a bit more than a sticky plaster, the problem will remain. It's not helpful when on one hand, you tell people you need to get a job, yet within the same couple of days you shut down NHS England with the loss of 13,000 jobs...

those people probably have more chance of getting back in the workplace than some kid fresh out of school with limited education. Oh and not to forget we decimated our Hight St jobs!

Feels like we are going back to the days of Thatcher (I think it was) and the long dole queues.

Maybe I'm just making excuses for them, but thought I'd chuck it out there anyway.

 

[Peej]

Fair play ... but if you want to compare scars, I raise you having your sternum sawn through, prized open and put back ... just grateful my surgeon must have been an avid fan of The Great British Sewing Bee

Ouch!

 

[Archers Road]

You ****ers
Just for the record between us me and my wife (because we worked and didn't rely on TU to fight our battles for us) are on over 50k a year, I still drive around in my Jag and she has her own car, I have NEVER relied on the State for anything and NEVER EVER WILL

AND as a freelance Commercial Manager (posh name for Quantity Surveyor) my best year was £104k for the year

So just take your cheap Pensioner jibes and shove them where the sun dont shine, the real truth was there were millions of pensioners not in my position who were shat on from a great height by the worst Labour Government in history

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[Solid Air]

This is because when working we pay "national Insurance" which is supposed to pay for any medical needs that may arise in your life.

Unfortunately we now have too many people who decide not to work and live off state payments ( many of which clog up the health service with problems related to booz, cigs and drugs (lifestyle choice).

Actually NI was to provide a fund for NHS , Retirement Pension ,Unemployment Benefit and Sickness Benefit .but has failed to cover the cost of them for at least 40 yrs and more likely longer .
NI is just a tax on employment these days and it entitles you to very little in the case of the last 2 items