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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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I think the issue is that there’s a culture of ‘we’re untouchable’ in the very wealthy circles. We don’t have to pay our fair share because 1. We’ll threaten to take our business elsewhere 2: we’ve made it our mission to embed ourselves in the political system to ensure that conditions are favourable for us.

There’s absolutely no evidence that these people would up sticks and leave if they were made to pay their fair share. And to the Tories credit, they called HSBC’s bluff on it when they threatened to pull out when a banking windfall was levied. HSBC stfu because they knew there was too much money to be lost in the UK if they left. The same principle would apply to any industry CEO who’s threatening to walk away from a lucrative British market.

Even having said that, even if they left, somebody would quickly fill their place in the market, so why not just make it the underlying principle that taxation is fair across the board, and that’s a condition of being licenced to trade in the UK. That hasn’t happened so far because the system has been rigged to be preferable to the wealthy.

The only notable businessmen who up sticks and left were people like James Dyson who campaigned for Brexit which then made it more expensive for his business to deal with Europe, the ****ing nobber <laugh>

I'm going to be completely honest with you, you come across as envious to me.

You always complain about anyone that has got more than you. Yet it's all abit rich excusing the pun, you live in a nice place in the UK, probably live a life considerly better than most - have no qualms about spending stupid money on something you want.

There's a lot of bitterness in you, so it clearly has brought you no happiness, because you are forever moaning about it.

You even hate on the elderly so it's not like you care about the poor, and don't dare be some kid who can't afford your ice creams!

You just seem to hate so many people in life. You'll say it's because they are crooks, they are all crooks. The only difference is some do cheating at a far lower level, whether it's dodging their tax due, dodging their tv licence, taking something they've not paid for, a cash hand job, using dodgy sports sticks, everyone is at it, even those at the bottom, but because they do it better than you, or were born into wealth you cry about it.

Just worry about yourself in life, and not what others have got. Generally the people you hate in life have different views to you, yet those you like you'll make excuses for, hypocrisy at its best, some do it for bantz, you don't, deep down there's a nasty person inside your soul, bitter and twisted.

A heart at peace gives life to the body, but envy rots the bones.
 
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I'm going to be completely honest with you, you come across as envious to me.

You always complain about anyone that has got more than you. Yet it's all abit rich excusing the pun, you live in a nice place in the UK, probably live a life considerly better than most - have no qualms about spending stupid money on something you want.

There's a lot of bitterness in you, so it clearly has brought you no happiness, because you are forever moaning about it.

You even hate on the elderly so it's not like you care about the poor, and don't dare be some kid who can't afford your ice creams!

You just seem to hate so many people in life. You'll say it's because they are crooks, they are all crooks. The only difference is some do cheating at a far lower level, whether it's dodging their tax due, dodging their tv licence, taking something they've not paid for, a cash hand job, using dodgy sports sticks, everyone is at it, even those at the bottom, but because they do it better than you, or were born into wealth you cry about it.

Just worry about yourself in life, and not what others have got. Generally the people you hate in life have different views to you, yet those you like you'll make excuses for, hypocrisy at its best, some do it for bantz, you don't, deep down there's a nasty person inside your soul, bitter and twisted.

A heart at peace gives life to the body, but envy rots the bones.

Your problem is that you personalise everything.

I’m talking about systems not personal preferences.

You need to let go of this silly personal spat, as it actually reveals more about your own prejudices and assumptions that anything to do with me <ok>
 
Your problem is that you personalise everything.

I’m talking about systems not personal preferences.

You need to let go of this silly personal spat, as it actually reveals more about your own prejudices and assumptions that anything to do with me <ok>

Oh you are talking about personal preferences, as I said, anyone you don't like is a **** and anyone you like can do no wrong.

All you ever bang on about is people who have more wealth than you yet with the other brush you mock the poor if it don't suit your politics.

My prejudice is someone pretending to be a caring peace loving hippy, when in fact you're a selfish, hating individual, much like the way you treated HiaG, I'ver never forgotten and never will.

Go run off and do your PM's like you use to do, or drag others into this argument to support you. Portray me as the mad person who has no comprehesion, but I will always know when I smell a rat.
 
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Oh you are talking about personal preferences, as I said, anyone you don't like is a **** and anyone you like can do no wrong.

All you ever bang on about is people who have more wealth than you yet with the other brush you mock the poor if it don't suit your politics.

My prejudice is someone pretending to be a caring peace loving hippy, when in fact you're a selfish, hating individual, much like the way you treated HiaG, I'ver never forgotten and never will.

Go run off and do your PM's like you use to do, or drag others into this argument to support you. Portray me as the mad person who has no comprehesion, but I will always know when I smell a rat.

Lol okay Sigmund.

You have a problem with me, and that exists in your head.

The sooner you recognise that, the sooner you can reconcile it.

All of the assumptions you make about me, actually reveal more about you.

It makes no difference to my life.
 
Pisk, he’s been proved right with what’s been posted on here in the last 24hrs though.

Elon Musk isn’t on your side so you’re happy to call him a fascist **** for his apparent Nazi salute. I’ve put a picture of Jeremy Corbyn doing the same thing but you haven’t come on here and said you’ve been wrong about him all these years and that he is also a fascist ****?

Im not arsed about you comment regarding me being a fascist. Racism, fascism, antisemite is all the same to me, it falls under the same umbrella as racist. I accept I’ve got it in me against the Irish and catholics. It is what it is. I’ve seen racism in pretty much every poster on this board at one time or another. Maybe Luvvy is the exception.

I accept your fascism comment against me on that basis but I also stand by comment that you’re racist against Jewish people 100%.

Time to start your posts about Corbyn being a vile racist if you want to show me that I’m wrong…
 
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Pisk, he’s been proved right with what’s been posted on here in the last 24hrs though.

Elon Musk isn’t on your side so you’re happy to call him a fascist **** for his apparent Nazi salute. I’ve put a picture of Jeremy Corbyn doing the same thing but you haven’t come on here and said you’ve been wrong about him all these years and that he is also a fascist ****?

Im not arsed about you comment regarding me being a fascist. Racism, fascism, antisemite is all the same to me, it falls under the same umbrella as racist. I accept I’ve got it in me against the Irish and catholics. It is what it is. I’ve seen racism in pretty much every poster on this board at one time or another. Maybe Luvvy is the exception.

I accept your fascism comment against me on that basis but I also stand by comment that you’re racist against Jewish people 100%.

Time to start your posts about Corbyn being a vile racist if you want to show me that I’m wrong…

Elon Musk has shown support for fascist parties and is now funding a known and openly racist's legal cases, so it kind of lends weight to the fact that his salute might have some fascist connotations. He's either a fascist or he's thick as mince for doing that gesture.

As for Corbyn, if you go and read the Forde report, it shows that he tried to get rid of Anti Semites from the party and was blocked by the Labour executive, because they wanted him out. Is he making a Nazi salute in that picture, I don't know, but I doubt it. For a man who's campaigned against Fascism his whole career it would seem odd.

It doesn't really matter what I think about these people, the facts about Musk's support for fascists is out there and so is the info on Corbyn's attempts to get rid of anti semites in the forde report, and you can go and read them for yourself.

As for whether you think I'm a racist/ anti semite. I couldn't really give a **** to be honest. I know I'm not and the the people who know me in real life know that's a million miles from the truth. Just goes to show how people can misjudge somebody's character on here imo.
 
Elon Musk has shown support for fascist parties and is now funding a known and openly racist's legal cases, so it kind of lends weight to the fact that his salute might have some fascist connotations. He's either a fascist or he's thick as mince for doing that gesture.

As for Corbyn, if you go and read the Forde report, it shows that he tried to get rid of Anti Semites from the party and was blocked by the Labour executive, because they wanted him out. Is he making a Nazi salute in that picture, I don't know, but I doubt it. For a man who's campaigned against Fascism his whole career it would seem odd.

It doesn't really matter what I think about these people, the facts about Musk's support for fascists is out there and so is the info on Corbyn's attempts to get rid of anti semites in the forde report, and you can go and read them for yourself.

As for whether you think I'm a racist/ anti semite. I couldn't really give a **** to be honest. I know I'm not and the the people who know me in real life know that's a million miles from the truth. Just goes to show how people can misjudge somebody's character on here imo.



It absolutely was a nazi salute. Everyone should be able to agree on that (the historians all do)
The real question is: was it deliberate, or accidental. Did he just stumble upon it, or was he really trying to make a nazi salute?

I think it was accidental, if he intended to do it, he's self-absorbed enough and lacks tact- he's the kind that would say "Yes, it was a nazi salute, deal with it". If he intended to do a nazi salute, he wouldn't have edited it out of his speech on his own replay on Twitter.

I believe he was caught up in the moment and doing what his emotions led him to doing. Now, does that mean it was an innocent mistake? Probably not, he's known to support a lot of openly white power groups, and nationalist groups, etc. I think he just subconsciously without thinking mimicked them. It's not completely innocent. It's like when people get drunk, you see their real selves. Angry people become quarrelsome drunks, friendly people become loving drunks. Musk was drunk on emotions at the time and let his true self show through. He does idolize the far right and neo-nazis, he's just not ready to do so publicly and hides behind a very thin veil, for now.
 
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It absolutely was a nazi salute. Everyone should be able to agree on that (the historians all do)
The real question is: was it deliberate, or accidental. Did he just stumble upon it, or was he really trying to make a nazi salute?

I think it was accidental, if he intended to do it, he's self-absorbed enough and lacks tact- he's the kind that would say "Yes, it was a nazi salute, deal with it". If he intended to do a nazi salute, he wouldn't have edited it out of his speech on his own replay on Twitter.

I believe he was caught up in the moment and doing what his emotions led him to doing. Now, does that mean it was an innocent mistake? Probably not, he's known to support a lot of openly white power groups, and nationalist groups, etc. I think he just subconsciously without thinking mimicked them. It's not completely innocent. It's like when people get drunk, you see their real selves. Angry people become quarrelsome drunks, friendly people become loving drunks. Musk was drunk on emotions at the time and let his true self show through. He does idolize the far right and neo-nazis, he's just not ready to do so publicly and hides behind a very thin veil, for now.
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Pisk, he’s been proved right with what’s been posted on here in the last 24hrs though.

Elon Musk isn’t on your side so you’re happy to call him a fascist **** for his apparent Nazi salute. I’ve put a picture of Jeremy Corbyn doing the same thing but you haven’t come on here and said you’ve been wrong about him all these years and that he is also a fascist ****?

Im not arsed about you comment regarding me being a fascist. Racism, fascism, antisemite is all the same to me, it falls under the same umbrella as racist. I accept I’ve got it in me against the Irish and catholics. It is what it is. I’ve seen racism in pretty much every poster on this board at one time or another. Maybe Luvvy is the exception.

I accept your fascism comment against me on that basis but I also stand by comment that you’re racist against Jewish people 100%.

Time to start your posts about Corbyn being a vile racist if you want to show me that I’m wrong…


Q. What's the difference between Elon Musk and Jeremy Corbyn?
A. Only one of them is a Gazillionaire who is using his money to promote far right politics, in not only the USA, but also the UK and Germany.



Also, only one of them is a white supremacist sympathiser; I'll give you a clue - it's the white South African.
 
Q. What's the difference between Elon Musk and Jeremy Corbyn?
A. Only one of them is a Gazillionaire who is using his money to promote far right politics, in not only the USA, but also the UK and Germany.



Also, only one of them is a white supremacist sympathiser; I'll give you a clue - it's the white South African.


I'm not sure why it matters in a discussion about Elon Musk. It's irrelevant whether or not Corbyn is a fascist. If he is, that doesn't make it OK for Musk to be one too.
 
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That's not life in London though, is it? Does that reflect your life experience? Or are those horrific but rare incidents,lumped together to make it sound like London is a lawless dystopian hellhole where the locals are terrified to pass their front doors because of marauding gangs of foreigners?

I'm guessing that you rarely leave your bedroom much these days, so you probably do believe that ****.
 
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It absolutely was a nazi salute. Everyone should be able to agree on that (the historians all do)
The real question is: was it deliberate, or accidental. Did he just stumble upon it, or was he really trying to make a nazi salute?

I think it was accidental, if he intended to do it, he's self-absorbed enough and lacks tact- he's the kind that would say "Yes, it was a nazi salute, deal with it". If he intended to do a nazi salute, he wouldn't have edited it out of his speech on his own replay on Twitter.

I believe he was caught up in the moment and doing what his emotions led him to doing. Now, does that mean it was an innocent mistake? Probably not, he's known to support a lot of openly white power groups, and nationalist groups, etc. I think he just subconsciously without thinking mimicked them. It's not completely innocent. It's like when people get drunk, you see their real selves. Angry people become quarrelsome drunks, friendly people become loving drunks. Musk was drunk on emotions at the time and let his true self show through. He does idolize the far right and neo-nazis, he's just not ready to do so publicly and hides behind a very thin veil, for now.

I saw it before all the fuss started and not once did I think it was a nazi salute, I didn't know what he was doing, I honestly thought he was just being a fooking idiot.

At best I thought he was thinking he was flying, my logic for that comes about because he rocket launched and failed recently, but the booster came back.

I suppose the problem here is the problem I see all the time, people looking for reasons to tar someone because they don't like them, this is why politics has become so divisive and because you don't see something, you are catergorised as thick and uneducated.

Maybe he is a facist, I don't know, but I'm not going to call someone out for raising their arm, what to me just looked a dumb immature action, but he's a bit loopy like that, like carrying a sink around.

What is obvious you ****s couldn't wait to jump all over it.

How often do you see me on here slating people like Starmer or Corbyn, virtually never, but you lot can't wait to dive and stick the knife in again, at any little opportunity. Much like Biden, I didn't start on him until recent days when you fookers couldn't give it a rest.

Same old shhite by the same people, if anything you lot deserve Trump and Musk...that's the funniest bit about it.
 
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Same old shhite by the same people, if anything you lot deserve Trump and Musk...that's the funniest bit about it.

No one wins with Trump and Musk calling the shots. The whole world is destabilized and worse.