Election 2024

[PINKIE]

When you do beginner’s Economics you get all the little charts and theory about why immigration is good but there’s little real life nuance to it. It assumes people come to join the work force, they’ll either have kids who do so too and will possibly head home to retire.

There are bad migrants and good migrants. When there was the big Eastern European influx we over indexed in the good. Windrush similar though neither were perfect. Now we’re over indexing in bad and getting both emigration and relatively few productive immigrants. I find it a bit disingenuous to use an argument that used to be very valid but clearly isn’t any more.

And yet our workforce, economy, pensions forecast, NHS, and countering an ageing population demands that we need immigration.

There's an argument for getting the right kind of people we need, but the basic tenant is sound

Six reasons why the UK needs immigration — UK Trade and Business Commission

Today is the United Nations' International Migrants Day, a day to shine a spotlight on the invaluable contributions of millions of migrants around the world. In a debate so often defined by negativity and misrepresented by those on the right of British and European politics, we want to highlight six

www.tradeandbusiness.uk

 

[Sucky]

When you do beginner’s Economics you get all the little charts and theory about why immigration is good but there’s little real life nuance to it. It assumes people come to join the work force, they’ll either have kids who do so too and will possibly head home to retire.

There are bad migrants and good migrants. When there was the big Eastern European influx we over indexed in the good. Windrush similar though neither were perfect. Now we’re over indexing in bad and getting both emigration and relatively few productive immigrants. I find it a bit disingenuous to use an argument that used to be very valid but clearly isn’t any more.

So what you tryna say here exactly?

 

[Sucky]

And yet our workforce, economy, pensions forecast, NHS, and countering an ageing population demands that we need immigration.

There's an argument for getting the right kind of people we need, but the basic tenant is sound

Six reasons why the UK needs immigration — UK Trade and Business Commission

Today is the United Nations' International Migrants Day, a day to shine a spotlight on the invaluable contributions of millions of migrants around the world. In a debate so often defined by negativity and misrepresented by those on the right of British and European politics, we want to highlight six

www.tradeandbusiness.uk

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[PINKIE]

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Bro, without immigration, your missus is gonna be wiping all of our arses

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

So what you tryna say here exactly?

That you aren’t wrong. It’s not the most articulate argument but we’ve long reached a point where it’s a fair question to ask what sort of benefit the country is getting from migration as a whole. I’m not sure the old economic argument stacks up now.

Though there’s not much you can do about a second generation person plotting to blow up a synagogue or a grandfather needing an interpreter to understand he’s been found guilty of raping his grandchild.

****ed if I know how to fix it.

 

[Archers Road]

That was it. Had to cycle to some woman’s house which was about a mile away to pick up the papers. All I really remember was there was about 30 kids in her house, it seemed like carnage!

Never had a paper round, though I’d occasionally help my mate with his. When I was about 14 I had a pools collection round. Went round with a little book, knocking on doors and collecting subs and that week’s entries. I got to keep a % of whatever I collected, but I’d always overspent that by the Monday when the boss came round to tally up. Usually had to ask my dad to bail me out - he was a bit resentful that me having a job was costing him money.

 

[Sucky]

Bro, without immigration, your missus is gonna be wiping all of our arses

That’s cool she charges per wipe

 

[PINKIE]

That you aren’t wrong. It’s not the most articulate argument but we’ve long reached a point where it’s a fair question to ask what sort of benefit the country is getting from migration as a whole. I’m not sure the old economic argument stacks up now.

Though there’s not much you can do about a second generation person plotting to blow up a synagogue or a grandfather needing an interpreter to understand he’s been found guilty of raping his grandchild.

****ed if I know how to fix it.

The UK has an ageing population and a skills shortage. If we carry on as we are, we'll end up with a workforce that can't afford to pay for the pensions or healthcare of all the old folk who are living longer with more complex needs. We'll also end up with key areas of our economy faltering due to lack of talent and we'll miss out on innovative opportunities for UK businesses to thrive.

There's an argument to get the right people in. But the media narrative is unfortunately dominated by Farage esque 'Send em home!' nonsense which filters down to Tik Tok and X and then you have a country of Sucky's frothing about suicide bombers.

 

[Sucky]

That you aren’t wrong. It’s not the most articulate argument but we’ve long reached a point where it’s a fair question to ask what sort of benefit the country is getting from migration as a whole. I’m not sure the old economic argument stacks up now.

Though there’s not much you can do about a second generation person plotting to blow up a synagogue or a grandfather needing an interpreter to understand he’s been found guilty of raping his grandchild.

****ed if I know how to fix it.

I could fix it

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[PINKIE]

That’s cool she charges per wipe

There won't be enough money in the kitty if a lack working population aren't contributing enough taxes

She'll have to wipe for free.

 

[Sucky]

The UK has an ageing population and a skills shortage. If we carry on as we are, we'll end up with a workforce that can't afford to pay for the pensions or healthcare of all the old folk who are living longer with more complex needs. We'll also end up with key areas of our economy faltering due to lack of talent and we'll miss out on innovative opportunities for UK businesses to thrive.

There's an argument to get the right people in. But the media narrative is unfortunately dominated by Farage esque 'Send em home!' nonsense which filters down to Tik Tok and X and then you have a country of Sucky's frothing about suicide bombers.

Yeah imagine frothing about suicide bombers blowing up kids


My lord

 

[Sucky]

There won't be enough money in the kitty if a lack working population aren't contributing enough taxes

She'll have to wipe for free.

Bullshit


Try another one bro you this ain’t cutting it no more

 

[PINKIE]

Bullshit


Try another one bro you this ain’t cutting it no more

You need a reality check brh

https://www.smf.co.uk/immigration-at-1-million-a-year-could-become-normal-for-uk/

 

[Sucky]

The only positive about lefty loonies who think the whole world is the same with the same values that can all live in the uk for free is that they’ve been given the podium for so long that the rise of the right is inevitable

So again turkeys voting for Xmas

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

The UK has an ageing population and a skills shortage. If we carry on as we are, we'll end up with a workforce that can't afford to pay for the pensions or healthcare of all the old folk who are living longer with more complex needs. We'll also end up with key areas of our economy faltering due to lack of talent and we'll miss out on innovative opportunities for UK businesses to thrive.

There's an argument to get the right people in. But the media narrative is unfortunately dominated by Farage esque 'Send em home!' nonsense which filters down to Tik Tok and X and then you have a country of Sucky's frothing about suicide bombers.

Of course there is. But we increasingly don’t. There’s no point bringing in young people who aren’t a net gain to society simply to reduce the share of the population above 65 on paper. All developed countries have an obligation to give asylum to people who need it but that avenue is clearly being abused and society pays, financially or otherwise, when that isn’t netted out many times over by French bankers or nice Korean students.

 

[Sucky]

You need a reality check brh

https://www.smf.co.uk/immigration-at-1-million-a-year-could-become-normal-for-uk/

bro your links are about as interesting to me as fosses bbc ones

 

[PINKIE]

bro your links are about as interesting to me as fosses bbc ones

Ignorance ain't gonna help though is it.

 

[PINKIE]

Of course there is. But we increasingly don’t. There’s no point bringing in young people who aren’t a net gain to society simply to reduce the share of the population above 65 on paper. All developed countries have an obligation to give asylum to people who need it but that avenue is clearly being abused and society pays, financially or otherwise, when that isn’t netted out many times over by French bankers or nice Korean students.

Asylum is a different issue.

We need more skilled and unskilled workers.

That is the bottom line.

 

[Sucky]

Ignorance ain't gonna help though is it.

The irony in this post is ironic

 

[Sucky]

Asylum is a different issue.

We need more skilled and unskilled workers.

That is the bottom line.

Yeh cos we don’t have enough just eat drivers do we