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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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Peej said:
Isnt Tylenol just a brand name for Paracetamol. It’s a generic now so cost pennies and is made all over the world.

I would think JFK Jnr has been in his ear with some crackpot nonsense and he sees it as a way to cover up the calls to release the Epstein files. See Prince Andrew’s ex wife is tied into this somehow too.

The net is closing on more and more pervs.
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I did wonder if it was because of the Epstein stuff. My other thought was could he make more money out of lawsuits (his cut) than out of supporting the pharmaceutical companies. Expecially as the producer is now independent from Johnson and Johnson. Maybe he wants the pharmaceuticals to buy his silence, and if they don't he'll get some lawyer to give him a cut of whatever they make out of it publically. Although sounds an arse way of going about things. This is pretty desperate if it is all to make the Epstein news vanish, because it wont anyway. All very strange behaviour from the man, but defo an agenda in there somewhere, i just haven't convinced myself what it is.
 
Libby said:
I've always thought that but a bit of a minefield in deciding the cut off points/criteria

But I've always thought that if someone in their 80s has had multiple strokes, beat cancer once already and then is diagnosed again and this time it's terminal. Then we shouldn't be spending hundreds of thousands of pounds to potentially give that person an extra 6 months of 'life'.

As I say though, a ****ing minefield.
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I think it's also about people making choices, just because a consultant or specialist say they can do x y z, don't mean that you have to take it. None of us are here to live forever and one day one way or another reality faces everyone. For me it's about quality of life and is the brain still functioning in the way you would like, and what messages in personal conversations/instructions have you left your family. It's like I once said to my consultant and also to my family, just don't wake me up....I know legally it's not as straightforward as that, but at least then people know your choices but I suppose some people never have those conversations.
 
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brb said:
I think it's also about people making choices, just because a consultant or specialist say they can do x y z, don't mean that you have to take it. None of us are here to live forever and one day one way or another reality faces everyone. For me it's about quality of life and is the brain still functioning in the way you would like, and what messages in personal conversations have you left your family. It's like I once said to my consultant and also to my family, just don't wake me up....I know legally it's not as straightforward as that, but at least then people know your choices but I suppose some people never have them conversations.
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I am going through this exact issue right now with my Mum and her doctors. Without going into specifics she basically has some terminal conditions, one of which will finish her off at some point. I've had the discussion with her about DNR and what her wishes are. It now needs to be recorded so that it can be shared with her GP and any of the medical team when that moment arrives.

It was ****ing tough to bring it up with her, but I waited until one of those cheery Cremation ads came on the tele when I was round there and thought, this is probably as good a time as ever to bring it up. <laugh>
 
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PINKIE said:
I am going through this exact issue right now with my Mum and her doctors. Without going into specifics she basically has some terminal conditions, one of which will finish her off at some point. I've had the discussion with her about DNR and what her wishes are. It now needs to be recorded so that it can be shared with her GP and any of the medical team when that moment arrives.

It was ****ing tough to bring it up with her, but I waited until one of those cheery Cremation ads came on the tele when I was round there and thought, this is probably as good a time as ever to bring it up. <laugh>
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Yeah I probably couldn't have that convo, I can do it about myself, because it;s my body my life, but I appreciate the predicament with such a situation.
 
brb said:
I did wonder if it was because of the Epstein stuff. My other thought was could he make more money out of lawsuits (his cut) than out of supporting the pharmaceutical companies. Expecially as the producer is now independent from Johnson and Johnson. Maybe he wants the pharmaceuticals to buy his silence, and if they don't he'll get some lawyer to give him a cut of whatever they make out of it publically. Although sounds an arse way of going about things. This is pretty desperate if it is all to make the Epstein news vanish, because it wont anyway. All very strange behaviour from the man, but defo an agenda in there somewhere, i just haven't convinced myself what it is.
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just seen him at the UN attacking London/Khan and that he wants to see London under Sharia law.

bloke is a liability and ‘leader’ of the free world. Not sure if this is a dream or a massive episode of Beadle’s About
 
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Peej said:
just seen him at the UN attacking London/Khan and that he wants to see London under Sharia law.

bloke is a liability and ‘leader’ of the free world. Not sure if this is a dream or a massive episode of Beadle’s About
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Lol would be ****ing funny if Jeremy Beadle jumped out and shoved a mic in the audience's face and pointed at the camera filming them <laugh>

I mean he'd dead, but you get the drift
 
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PINKIE said:
Lol would be ****ing funny if Jeremy Beadle jumped out and shoved a mic in the audience's face and pointed at the camera filming them <laugh>

I mean he'd dead, but you get the drift
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I’m not parking my car near a crane on a quayside anytime soon.
 
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brb said:
Yeah I probably couldn't have that convo, I can do it about myself, because it;s my body my life, but I appreciate the predicament with such a situation.
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I had to have some very tough convo's with my mum when my Dad was dying from Dementia, as she simply didn't cope with any of it and went into denial. I remember vividly speaking to the Doctor who told me that they weren't going to give my Dad anymore Saline solution and that it was time to let him die peacefully. And then having to relay the conversation to my mum.

I've let my missus and daughter know my wishes, and it's not to be revived if I have no quality of life. I don't want to be a cabbage and I don't want to be a burden on either of them. So just let me slip away
 
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PINKIE said:
I had to have some very tough convo's with my mum when my Dad was dying from Dementia, as she simply didn't cope with any of it and went into denial. I remember vividly speaking to the Doctor who told me that they weren't going to give my Dad anymore Saline solution and that it was time to let him die peacefully. And then having to relay the conversation to my mum.

I've let my missus and daughter know my wishes, and it's not to be revived if I have no quality of life. I don't want to be a cabbage and I don't want to be a burden on either of them. So just let me slip away
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While on dialysis I had a discussion with the consultant and we completed a DNACPR form. Having my blood pumped round a machine for four hours, three time a week made me think….
 
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Peej said:
While on dialysis I had a discussion with the consultant and we completed a DNACPR form. Having my blood pumped round a machine for four hours, three time a week made me think….
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Yep, that's the one I'm going through with my mum atm.

I can imagine how sobering it must be to have to go through that for yourself.
 
Peej said:
just seen him at the UN attacking London/Khan and that he wants to see London under Sharia law.

bloke is a liability and ‘leader’ of the free world. Not sure if this is a dream or a massive episode of Beadle’s About
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He was telling NATO today to shoot down Russian jets if they stray again....once they do that he'll be saying, you started a ****ing war now. <laugh>
 
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PINKIE said:
Doctors take the hypocratic oath to preserve life. But when you speak to them on a personal level, loads of them see the futility in trying to keep people alive who have very little quality of life
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I can only speak from the experience I had with my MIL before her death. She spent 6 months in and out of hospital with little treatment. It did feel like it was a case of “well she’s 84 and had a good innings, let’s just make her comfortable”
 
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PINKIE said:
Mass invasion it ain't though bro and this is where you're being played.

The numbers of people in migrant hotels is 30k. Out of a population of 70m

That's about 0.4% of the population.

Even less of a percentage is the billionaires in the UK, but who have far more of an impact on your life that Ahmed from Syria. They also control the social media channels that are feeding you the hysteria about Ahmed, so that you look over there and not at what they are doing.
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Need to start shopping from pinkies store if this is his level of maths. 30k of 70m is ~0.05%
 
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