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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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I don't get this banging on about "illegal migration"

If anyone on here wants to have a serious discussion then first and foremost honesty has to be shown.

Legal migration to the UK is too high, that's a problem. "Illegal migration" to the UK is miniscule and it's a cover term for people who don't want to be called racist.

No, too many legal migrants come to the UK, the welfare state cannot keep up. Every single major party is (finally) agreeing with this point.
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25, 000 so far this year have arrived on boats.

All men.

That's **** n all

But hundreds and hundreds of thousands move to the UK every single year through legal channels.

That's too much for any welfare state imo.
 
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The USA has a trade surplus with the UK. That’s the reason we are being kept out of and won’t need to suffer any tariffs with our trade deals. Regardless of who our government was that would always be the case while it’s like this.
no we have a trade surplus over USA . The difference with the EU we have a trade deficit in manufactured goods but this is outweighed by our services surplus and luckily Trumps emphasis is on the former .
 
That's **** n all

But hundreds and hundreds of thousands move to the UK every single year through legal channels.

That's too much for any welfare state imo.
I agree but how many of these are temps through being students or temp visas for people that are only going to be working here a year or two before going home?
 
no we have a trade surplus over USA . The difference with the EU we have a trade deficit in manufactured goods but this is outweighed by our services surplus and luckily Trumps emphasis is on the former .
Yeah you’re right. **** knows what I was looking at. Are we in a surplus for goods and services? Maybe I was only looking at one if we aren’t.
 
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I agree but how many of these are temps through being students or temp visas for people that are only going to be working here a year or two before going home?

Probably a lot, but then again, how many actually go home, then you have another difficult question etc etc.

Doing everything we can to stop people who are breaking the law as soon as they arrive is an obvious policy and no one disagrees

But looking at legal numbers is the priority because it's WAY more people.
 
That's **** n all

But hundreds and hundreds of thousands move to the UK every single year through legal channels.

That's too much for any welfare state imo.
You think that's bad? were spending 8m per day to feed dress and keep them.

I dont see why we can't just go get all of them in the hotels and put them on the Bibby Stockholm and send em back.

I'd also post the army to the relevant coastlines with permission to shoot anything that comes.

That will stop or at least stem the tide of people paying 5k to cross the water to get all the freebies in the UK in no time
 
Yeah you’re right. **** knows what I was looking at. Are we in a surplus for goods and services? Maybe I was only looking at one if we aren’t.

Having seen the figures, China and the EU are the ones that are the problem (in Trumps logic) for the US, big problem, off the chart. China more than the figures even show, because suggestions are that China are pumping whatever through Mexico, hence why Mexico is exporting more goods into the US and why their figures are so high, they are not Mexican goods they are Chinese goods (components and stuff I think), but don't know if Trump knows that bit or even worked it out...he'll go nuts when he eventually does find out, because he promised Mexico no tariffs for another 30 days. <laugh> Albeit for 10k soldiers on the border, so he'll be happy for now.
 
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Probably a lot, but then again, how many actually go home, then you have another difficult question etc etc.

Doing everything we can to stop people who are breaking the law as soon as they arrive is an obvious policy and no one disagrees

But looking at legal numbers is the priority because it's WAY more people.
Yes it is, but I’d also hazard a guess that we are way short on our estimations of illegals entering the UK. Who is more likely to be committing crime? The people who have come here through the correct channels and we know exactly who they’re or the people that have lobbed their passports in the channel?

Btw, I’ve blamed success governments for our housing shortage. None of them have kept up with the pace that the population has exploded. Do you agree that we need to start seeing more emigration than immigration for a few years? (include illegals in the emigration figures)
 
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Having seen the figures, China and the EU are the ones that are the problem (in Trumps logic) for the US, big problem, off the chart. China more than the figures even show, because suggestions are that China are pumping whatever through Mexico, hence why Mexico is importing more goods into the US and why their figures are so high, they are not Mexican goods they are Chinese goods (components and stuff I think), but don't know if Trump knows that bit or even worked it out...he'll go nuts when he eventually does find out, because he promised Mexico no tariffs for another 30 days. <laugh> Albeit for 10k soldiers on the border, so he'll be happy for now.

Found this on this sky, watch the video in it, and pay particular attention to the chart and chat from a minute in...

https://news.sky.com/video/trump-tariffs-what-is-americas-trade-position-13302559
 
Having seen the figures, China and the EU are the ones that are the problem (in Trumps logic) for the US, big problem, off the chart. China more than the figures even show, because suggestions are that China are pumping whatever through Mexico, hence why Mexico is importing more goods into the US and why their figures are so high, they are not Mexican goods they are Chinese goods (components and stuff I think), but don't know if Trump knows that bit or even worked it out...he'll go nuts when he eventually does find out, because he promised Mexico no tariffs for another 30 days. <laugh> Albeit for 10k soldiers on the border, so he'll be happy for now.
<laugh>

All he does is posture and go in heavy to get what he wants. It would have been interesting if Canada and Mexico had have said crack on then and let him follow through with his threats. He could have properly alienated the US and made them an economic and trade outcast.

He’s doing my tits in tbh. He’s got the conversion rate bouncing all over and I’m not sure when to weigh my money in for Jamaica and get it changed over to dollars lol
 
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All he does is posture and go in heavy to get what he wants. It would have been interesting if Canada and Mexico had have said crack on then and let him follow through with his threats. He could have properly alienated the US and made them an economic and trade outcast.

He’s doing my tits in tbh. He’s got the conversion rate bouncing all over and I’m not sure when to weigh my money in for Jamaica and get it changed over to dollars lol

I love Starmer being able to sit in the middle of this and say I'm alright Jack lol....makes a change for us to be in a good position in all this. Good job we voted Brexit Saf :bandit:
 
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Pretty sure that's an utter bollocks made up number, cba to google tho so go ahead - make my day.
Just for fun.

Try find a picture of one these boats with a woman or child on it.

And I mean a real child not the 40yr old men claiming to be 15 when they arrive.

Which is a whole other problem because if they get asylum they are going to school.. With actual children.

Not poking you in particular but Im yet to see a woman or a child on any of the boats I've seen pictures of.
 
I love Starmer being able to sit in the middle of this and say I'm alright Jack lol....makes a change for us to be in a good position in all this. Good job we voted Brexit Saf :bandit:
And not even as much as a thank you from the remainers <doh>

We’ve got a great chance to capitalise on both sides here. I’d probably change the chancellor now to someone with a great deal of experience. The current one is useless.
 
Just for fun.

Try find a picture of one these boats with a woman or child on it.

And I mean a real child not the 40yr old men claiming to be 15 when they arrive.

Which is a whole other problem because if they get asylum they are going to school.. With actual children.

Not poking you in particular but Im yet to see a woman or a child on any of the boats I've seen pictures of.
Found ONE :1980_boogie_down:

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What do I win?
 
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We'll said Saf.

It is coming here, and it's the result of years and years of being ignored and pushed to the back of the queue, Italy, Germany, France,, Portugal, Sweden, the UK, all invaded by illegal immigrants and what do ya know... They're all going to ****.

Time to get tough/Trump and look after ourselves and our own.

It's desperately needed here that's for sure
In contrast to this Poland and and Hungary do not let any of these illegals into thier countryn And have told the European Parliament to go **** themselves over the issue.




And whaddya know?

No bombings, no kids getting raped by gangs, no creeps hanging outside of schools, far less crime than any of the invaded countries in the top post.

It's not fuking rocket science is it