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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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This is the bit i don't get as the most prominent group attempting to get the law changed were people with MND who often would not be able to actually physically do it hence there attempts to get the law changed .

Yup, I think these people just want some law passed to legalise end of life, that will not help them in their situations, but once it's passed people will set about other legal challenges, such as if X why not Y. They are more or less themselves and it's supporters saying it will not change anything, other than make it legal, so the case is looked at by a court before death, rather than how it is at the moment after death from a coroners/law perspective. Just feels like to me lets get the bill passed and we deal with the next problem later, thus the examples then come in from other countries, where it is legalised, and they start including other aspects over time - where do we go then, do we look at people that will not die but have a poor quality of life maybe due to mental health and attempted suicides. It's opening a pandora's box and my view is keep the lid on it, let alone crossing religious boundaries. Also feels like they are trying to rush this through, because they know damn well there will be strong objections, but I get that's just subjective on my part.
 
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1984 is here lads
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On the other hand, Doctors back in the day were probably a lot less reluctant to deliver a high dose of morphine to a person in pain. Our old family Doc did exactly that when my Nan had pneumonia, nearly 50 years ago. He told my mum it might finish her off, and it did; she was dying anyway.

Should today’s doctors have the freedom to make those sort of decisions, after consulting family, without fear of prosecution? Probably yes imo.

My Mother in laws, yes both were dying from cancer and both were given extra pain relief to pass away peacefully
 
Morphine is brilliant. Would be a great way to go.
Was throwing up for over 4 hours once...once every 10-15 mins. Eventually an ambulance was sent cos it wouldn't stop and I was in so much pain. In the hospital I was put on 3 drips, one with an anti sickness liquid, one with a hydration liquid cos I was so dehydrated and one of liquid Morphine...had 2 doses of the morphine.. remember **** about the following 24 hours <laugh>
 
Was throwing up for over 4 hours once...once every 10-15 mins. Eventually an ambulance was sent cos it wouldn't stop and I was in so much pain. In the hospital I was put on 3 drips, one with an anti sickness liquid, one with a hydration liquid cos I was so dehydrated and one of liquid Morphine...had 2 doses of the morphine.. remember **** about the following 24 hours <laugh>
Had it when I had a knee op. Can totally see the appeal of being a junkie.
 
Had it when I had a knee op. Can totally see the appeal of being a junkie.

Yeah 100%. I've had liquid a couple of times and it's easy to see why people give their life up for it.

If I didn't have my son to set an example to I'd definitely give some serious consideration to giving up my job for opiates tbh.
 
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Was throwing up for over 4 hours once...once every 10-15 mins. Eventually an ambulance was sent cos it wouldn't stop and I was in so much pain. In the hospital I was put on 3 drips, one with an anti sickness liquid, one with a hydration liquid cos I was so dehydrated and one of liquid Morphine...had 2 doses of the morphine.. remember **** about the following 24 hours <laugh>

You actually lose the ability to tell the difference between awake and asleep, it all just blends into one not remembering fook all about anything.
 
Farmers in Wales not happy, they turned up outside the Labour Conference today, and Starmer left via the back door - which is rather strange because only yesterday Keir was saying at British Aerospace he was in Wales to listen, and they could ask him any question they wanted, about anything and he will take people's thoughts away with him. So a spokesperson for the farmers has said he ran out the backdoor, and didn't have the guts to speak to us. Threats now of food inflation and food shortages in the shops, from as early as next week. Personally I think it would have been better to invite a few in to meet with him, and allow them to air their views, but no - oh well.
 
Farmers in Wales not happy, they turned up outside the Labour Conference today, and Starmer left via the back door - which is rather strange because only yesterday Keir was saying at British Aerospace he was in Wales to listen, and they could ask him any question they wanted, about anything and he will take people's thoughts away with him. So a spokesperson for the farmers has said he ran out the backdoor, and didn't have the guts to speak to us. Threats now of food inflation and food shortages in the shops, from as early as next week. Personally I think it would have been better to invite a few in to meet with him, and allow them to air their views, but no - oh well.
All part of the global depopulation agenda innit mate.

Bill gates can **** off I say
 
Farmers in Wales not happy, they turned up outside the Labour Conference today, and Starmer left via the back door - which is rather strange because only yesterday Keir was saying at British Aerospace he was in Wales to listen, and they could ask him any question they wanted, about anything and he will take people's thoughts away with him. So a spokesperson for the farmers has said he ran out the backdoor, and didn't have the guts to speak to us. Threats now of food inflation and food shortages in the shops, from as early as next week. Personally I think it would have been better to invite a few in to meet with him, and allow them to air their views, but no - oh well.

**** the farmers, for all their moaning. You never see a poor farmer
 
**** the farmers, for all their moaning. You never see a poor farmer

I'll remember that next week mate, when there is no food in the shops. <whistle>

Personally I don't give a shhite, be interesting to see how far the farmers push this debate though. One thing that gets my curiosity though, is people normally back unions but don't back a farmers union, I find that somewhat strange not being a union supporter myself. So if a highly paid train driver wants more money, it is a valid strike, but if a farmers union wants to meet with Keir about their inheritance tax it's fook off. No farmers, no food, surely that's a simple logic everyone understands or does everyone just think the stuff in the supermarket magically appears. Surely when a farmer dies, the farm remains in the hands of the family, if they decide it's not worth the hassle, then that's one less farm feeding the UK in a growing population.