Election 2024

[brb]

A lot of people live in fear when they don't really need to.

We all take an interest in politics on here, and probably to our own good fortune much of the worst of it doesn't affect our daily lives.

There are people though who live on tik tok and twitter and thing the deep state is coming for them, they should probs spend a week in Gaza to get things into perspective.

From a positive perspective, I'm grateful for what I have everyday, and by that I don't mean money. I'm grateful for being able to eat when I want, I'm grateful for being able to drink water when I want, grateful for having hot water to wash, electricity to give me light. I'm grateful for the roof over my head, and the four walls that protect me from the elements outside. I'm grateful for my medical needs being able to be attended to, and grateful to live in a country not at war. If I was rich and a millionaire or billionaire, I wouldn't really want it, especially at my age, I could live off a very small fraction of that money and help others. And I'm grateful for being alive, having seen many people including friends and family die during my life. I'm grateful for all that, life is about how you can help others not just yourself, for whatever your pains, there will always be someone with greater pain and trauma in life, so be fooking grateful for whatever you have, no matter how little!

 

[PINKIE]

Grateful not to be a Mercan

If I lived in the US I would just go off grid. When I was there recently I was on the road a lot, out in the sticks and got talking to people who have just ditched it all, bought some land, built there own cabins and gone off grid. I was asking them about planning permission etc and they were telling me that if you can buy land in unincorporated areas that doesn't have any logging, mining or other commercial interest, you don't need any permits and can pretty much do what you want'

Contrast that with here and you need to jump through hoops with the local council if you want to change the tiles on your roof in case it offends Mrs Baker at no26

(I speak from experience !)

 

[PINKIE]

From a positive perspective, I'm grateful for what I have everyday, and by that I don't mean money. I'm grateful for being able to eat when I want, I'm grateful for being able to drink water when I want, grateful for having hot water to wash, electricity to give me light. I'm grateful for the roof over my head, and the four walls that protect me from the elements outside. I'm grateful for my medical needs being able to be attended to, and grateful to live in a country not at war. If I was rich and a millionaire or billionaire, I wouldn't really want it, especially at my age, I could live off a very small fraction of that money and help others. And I'm grateful for being alive, having seen many people including friends and family die during my life. I'm grateful for all that, life is about how you can help others not just yourself, for whatever your pains, there will always be someone with greater pain and trauma in life, so be fooking grateful for whatever you have, no matter how little!

Amen to that

 

[Big Ern]

Unfortunately 72 million Americans don't agree that he's a moron, or they felt for whatever reason a moron was better than the other option. Either way, the world is certainly not a safer place under Biden's leadership, and when you are spending money on weapons instead of easing the economic restraints on your population you run the risk of these consequences. Will Trump make that any better, doubt it, but more Americans voted for him than Kamala and that's the way it rolls in a democracy.

That's not how military aid works, Ukraine are getting stock-piles of out-dated equipment, it's akin to donating clothes to oxfam. As to the few items of newer stuff they're getting, that's field testing.

 

[Bodinki]

A lot of people live in fear when they don't really need to.

We all take an interest in politics on here, and probably to our own good fortune much of the worst of it doesn't affect our daily lives.

There are people though who live on tik tok and twitter and thing the deep state is coming for them, they should probs spend a week in Gaza to get things into perspective.

Aye I have seen a lot of mad Tik Toks from people having actual meltdowns about Trump being re-elected.
even saw a video of some woman trying to calm down her kids who are having full blown panic attacks...I mean ffs, what has the media done to these people?
The democrats need to return to populism and concentrate to popular policies that people want ala Bernie Sanders rather than making their entire campaign about "Trump is Hitler, dont vote for him". People saw through that bullshit.
If the Dems try that BS again then there will be another Republican president in 4 years.

 

[brb]

Regardless of your political opinion when the clearly dangerous, nutjob ruler/dictator of Russia comes out singing Trumps praises for winning the election surely that makes you wonder whether you really did vote the right way.

Aren't we all dictators of sorts. We all believe we should live our lives a certain way and have different perspectives on freedoms - that's whether you live in the UK, Russia, America, China, Iran, South Korea and North Korea. We all live on and are fed propaganda and become negative when something don't go our way. America committed one of the biggest atrocities known to man, against Japan, I know people would argue it was to save x amount of lives. NATO commited atrocities against Yugoslavia, again knowledgement of certain arguments. Those same countries supply weapons to Israel against Gaza. So we are not innocent in any of this, we are all guilty of being mad at some point in the last century. I don't even think this country (UK) is anything like free compared to when I was young, especially around survellience, which should make us feel safer, but I feel no safer now, than I did 50 years ago, so maybe all our leaders are dictators. This is not a defence of Trump or Putin, but me just saying sadly we are not all without sin.

 

[brb]

That's not how military aid works, Ukraine are getting stock-piles of out-dated equipment, it's akin to donating clothes to oxfam. As to the few items of newer stuff they're getting, that's field testing.

Regardless it's still cost them $175 Billion ($106 Billion direct aid), I'm sure the American voters could have thought of many other things to spend some of that money on, even if a lot of it was old weaponary.

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine

 

[Big Ern]

Regardless it's still cost them $175 Billion ($106 Billion direct aid), I'm sure the American voters could have thought of many other things to spend some of that money on, even if a lot of it was old weaponary.

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine

Oh, I agree, it could've been spent on heath care and education, you think it will? On the other hand, if they hadn't, where would Russia have stopped?

 

[Big Ern]

Aye I have seen a lot of mad Tik Toks from people having actual meltdowns about Trump being re-elected.
even saw a video of some woman trying to calm down her kids who are having full blown panic attacks...I mean ffs, what has the media done to these people?
The democrats need to return to populism and concentrate to popular policies that people want ala Bernie Sanders rather than making their entire campaign about "Trump is Hitler, dont vote for him". People saw through that bullshit.
If the Dems try that BS again then there will be another Republican president in 4 years.

nah, they won't have covid to blame for the economy next time, people forget it was starting to go down the ****ter before covid.

 

[brb]

Oh, I agree, it could've been spent on heath care and education, you think it will? On the other hand, if they hadn't, where would Russia have stopped?

Personally I honestly don't know if Trump will spend the money on the economy or steal it like the UK Tories. I suppose the answer to that lays in whatever he did first time round, I just keep hearing American prices are high, I've seen some examples on Twitter along time ago, but being X I just assumed they were grossly exaggerated. i haven't been out to the States for at least a decade now, and I never ever felt their food prices were cheap - Petrol was cheap about 1/3rd of the UK price back then and I remember bottled beer in the supermarkets along with cigs being cheap, but then again everything depends on the exchange rate of the dollar at the time. Trump will be accountable to his voters, but were they paying any attention first time round on his record with the economy.

Putin/Russia, no, he's not going to stop, I don't know the answer to him aside a swift bullet to the forehead. I hate people being put through the meat grinder, whether Russian, Ukranian or Korean, especially when none of the people in power will ever be there. I think if Trump can get him to stop where he is with this land grab, without anymore death then let's go for it, especially if the peace holds for the whole term of Trumps presidency, at least it will be another 4 or 5 years on Putins age by that time. Also four years of peace gives the UK and the EU time to rethink their strategy and build up military hardware and strengthen borders for the next time. It's not the perfect solution and Zelenskky will not be happy, but hopefully it stops any more deaths for now. I recognise that this period of time would also give Putin time to strengthen his armoury, so it's certainly far from ideal. Like I said I don't know the answer, other than coming up with equally madman ones of bombing that little shhite Putin into the ground lol.

 

[brb]

Slightly different topic but still politics...

A few days back, I was reading about survey done with migrants/asylum seekers that come to the UK. The asylum seekers said they would prefer to be housed in barracks such as Folkestone, rather than being housed in hotels, one of the main reasons given was the food was better.

Now the Tories got a load of shhite over housing them in barracks (maybe the conditions were poor) but I always felt the locations were perfect - down on the coast, they use to house our troops and if that is what the asylum seekers genuinely consider as a better option, let's do it.

Yeah they will cost money to bring up to standard, but at least it's better than spaffing the allocated budget for them down the drain on hotels.

 

[duggie2000]

You can only be president twice due to the 22nd amendment, but some argue it's within the wording, so to Trump lawyers that probably means we can change tthe wording lol

Roosevelt got a third term either because he turned the American Economy around and they bent the rules or no-one would stand against him, it was a one of though and unlikely to be repeated

 

[brb]

Roosevelt got a third term either because he turned the American Economy around and they bent the rules or no-one would stand against him, it was a one of though and unlikely to be repeated

I think he might have been the one example where the 22nd amendment came in after his terms in office?

 

[duggie2000]

Oh, I agree, it could've been spent on heath care and education, you think it will? On the other hand, if they hadn't, where would Russia have stopped?

The English Chanel where he would've pondered Dare I sink Americas biggest Aircraft Carrier and risk Nuclear Destruction or just leave the UK as a buffer zone between the United States of America and the United States of Soviet Europe

 

[brb]

Irish General Election 29th November... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9nwjr1mldo

Sinn Fein, Mary Lou McDonald on the telly, powerful as ever speech. Wouldn't want to piss her off and she's determined Sinn Fein win with spirit and energy.

 

[Sucky]

So what was it yesterday he pledged to smash the trafficking gangs? Another 75m was it?


Well thats most definitely another 75m down the drain

But this amount of 3.5 million is interesting, I'd rather that 75m went to this cause than to France just so they can dump another 100,000 illegals on us this year ...again.

Yet housing these illegals in hotels is costing 3m per day.

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[Sucky]

And now they get free travel too...

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...I could do with 8 quid a day for travel but I'm white and come from here so lolz

 

[Sucky]

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[Sucky]

Slightly different topic but still politics...

A few days back, I was reading about survey done with migrants/asylum seekers that come to the UK. The asylum seekers said they would prefer to be housed in barracks such as Folkestone, rather than being housed in hotels, one of the main reasons given was the food was better.

Now the Tories got a load of shhite over housing them in barracks (maybe the conditions were poor) but I always felt the locations were perfect - down on the coast, they use to house our troops and if that is what the asylum seekers genuinely consider as a better option, let's do it.

Yeah they will cost money to bring up to standard, but at least it's better than spaffing the allocated budget for them down the drain on hotels.

Or send them all ****ing home how about that.

 

[PINKIE]

Or send them all ****ing home how about that.