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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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You could point fingers at most parties and claim things, whether it be Labour, Tory or Reform. Much like sometimes you fail to see your own extreme views, I'm sorry Trebs but you are certainly not the moral one of this forum, you may think you are, but you are far from it. You seem to do a lot of hate, whether it's Israelis, Reformers, Tories, way too much just to be an innocent obsever.

Ahh this is where you start attacking the poster bcos you've got no argument about what's being discussed. <laugh>

That'll do me <ok>
 
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You’ll get accused of using language worse that calling somebody a ‘****ing paki’ in a minute

and fair play to Rishi for actually using those words on TV to call it out

That's just hypocrisy bcos he refused to call it out when 30p Lee was making racist remarks against Khan, or when their donor was talking about wanting to kill all black women. Remember it was "wrong" not racist, kinda like what's being argued on here. Ssshhhh mustn't call racists, racist <laugh>
 
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Ahh this is where you start attacking the poster bcos you have no argument about what's being discussed. <laugh>

That'll do me <ok>

I have plenty of argument about what's been discussed, I told you, all parties have had some outrageous views at some point in time. Whether it be Labour, Reform, Tories or anyone else. You chose to select one guy who put up a Reform board for your narratives today, which Pinkie also jumped on, despite you not even knowing the guy and virtually profiling him. I merely questioned your judgement on that sole individual, not what you thought of any party. We saw these same sort of comments around Brexit, it didn't matter what my opinion was, because I voted Brexit, 'I'm a racist' - We've also got a war thread that had various extreme views about Israelis and likewise maybe Palestinians, I merely suggest, how about we give people the benefit of doubt before pointing accusing fingers, or are we moving to a future where we tell people how to vote, and that we should ban certain promotion materials. I do feel you border on the extreme at times, maybe I shouldn't, I should also give you the benefit of doubt, maybe it's just how you rant everytime you on challenged on something, after all I can't see what political board or flag you fly outside your house.
 
That’s already happening in England now. We are going away from burials. Most people just get cremated or there’s an option for your corpse to be lobbed in acid because it’s better for the environment.
Another great invention that I've been robbed of, it reminds me of when I invented the quesadilla only to find out that Mexico had beaten me to it by a few hundred years. ****ers.
 
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You’ll get accused of using language worse that calling somebody a ‘****ing paki’ in a minute

and fair play to Rishi for actually using those words on TV to call it out

See you've tried to turn the conversation about 'Paki' to deflect away from what I was challenging, I said that's what you were doing. Everyone knows that's wrong to use such a racist slur, it goes without saying, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the context of what I was discussing.
 
See you've tried to turn the conversation about 'Paki' to deflect away from what I was challenging, I said that's what you were doing. Everyone knows that's wrong to use such a racist slur, it goes without saying, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the context of what I was discussing.

That’s in your head mate. I was responding to Treble, if I was going to respond to your point I would have addressed you.

You then literally accused me of using language worse than ‘****ing paki’ because it triggered you.

It’s mental mate. There’s no other way of describing it
 
That’s in your head mate. I was responding to Treble, if I was going to respond to your point I would have addressed you.

You then literally accused me of using language worse than ‘****ing paki’ because it triggered you.

It’s mental mate. There’s no other way of describing it

No mate, you are on your usual agendas. The mr nice surfer hippy would never say anything contrary now would he. And to be perfectly honest I can't be arsed to argue with two of you, I got better things to do.
 
No mate, you are on your usual agendas. The mr nice surfer hippy would never say anything contrary now would he. And to be perfectly honest I can't be arsed to argue with two of you, I got better things to do.

There is no value arguing with you because your starting point is literally unhinged. So with that I agree with you. It’s pointless <ok>
 
There is no value arguing with you because your starting point is literally unhinged. So with that I agree with you. It’s pointless <ok>

Maybe we should let other people decide if my starting point is 'literally unhinged' rather than you claiming the moral judgment.
 
Maybe we should let other people decide if my starting point is 'literally unhinged' rather than you claiming the moral judgment.

I think they probably already have mate

it makes for good reading for everybody else on here though so it gets bantz points <laugh>
 
Anyway. Farage now claiming that channel 4 used actors in the ****ingPaki-gate scandal

He’s literally gone full Trump on this <laugh>
 
There is no value arguing with you because your starting point is literally unhinged. So with that I agree with you. It’s pointless <ok>
Maybe we should let other people decide if my starting point is 'literally unhinged' rather than you claiming the moral judgment.
I think they probably already have mate

As I said, let them be the judge of that. Rather than keep patting your own back.
 
Some democrats now openly calling for Biden to be replaced with another candidate.

That will look terrible for them and the Biden campaign, certainly in the first instance.

But maybe it’s something they should do. Because that TV debate literally handed the impetus to Trump and made it easy for him.

And whilst it shouldn’t come down to who comes off better on a TV debate, the optics matter and people need to have confidence in the leader.

The dems could put somebody in place who would easily wipe the floor with Trump, but at the moment they risk losing that election due to people’s lack of confidence in Biden.
 
Labour were literally found guilty of antisemitism. That happened.

Are we saying if you fly a Labour flag or vote for Labour you’re an antisemite or you at least support antisemites?


Only it didn’t happen, did it?

An independent investigation by the EHRC - the one the Tories want to withdraw from - found failings in the way the party leadership addressed complaints of anti-Semitism. That’s not “finding Labour guilty of anti-Semitism”.

The subsequent Forde Report found that different factions within the Labour Party weaponised the issue, to discredit each other. That’s the state Labour was in when Starmer took control; thank **** he did tbh, but some on the left won’t forgive him for drawing a line in the sand and sticking to it, to the cost of Corbyn and his associates. So be it, I’m pretty left myself but also a pragmatist. Corbyn wasn’t personally remotely anti-Semitic, I stand by that 100%. He was useless though.
 
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Some democrats now openly calling for Biden to be replaced with another candidate.

That will look terrible for them and the Biden campaign, certainly in the first instance.

But maybe it’s something they should do. Because that TV debate literally handed the impetus to Trump and made it easy for him.

And whilst it shouldn’t come down to who comes off better on a TV debate, the optics matter and people need to have confidence in the leader.

The dems could put somebody in place who would easily wipe the floor with Trump, but at the moment they risk losing that election due to people’s lack of confidence in Biden.

There were some things last night that Biden said that were completely untrue.

He's really running on the economy angle, but to do this he's trying to push an idea that the US economy was bad under Trump. It wasn't.

Biden actually inherited a country with a decent economy, average inflation, for example was 1.9% under Trump. Biden claimed that when he took over office it was at 9%. This is completely false.

When he became president US inflation was like 1.4%.

I looked into this just because I thought at face value, Bidens statement sounded ridiculous.

Inflation is higher per year under Biden than it was Trump.
 
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Racism is bad. Bigotry, sexism, homophobia also bad. Lots of this around in the UK political scene, maybe they should all get sacked.

Don't get me started on all that other stuff as well <laugh>

and yes, sack the fooking lot of them.
 
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