Off Topic EJK

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Cheers EJK, the vehicle that I am given (loaned) is part of a fleet of site vehicles that were used up north prior to the owner partially retiring. They are still used by people working for him around the Perth area and, I would assume knowing how meticulous the owner is, are insured appropriately.
What concerns me is the few occasions when we shared the driving whilst touring down Margaret River in our relatives car (probably not a good idea now that you have put me right)

Most comprehensive car insurance policies allow for non named persons to drive the vehicle less than 12 times per year
 
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@Evil Jimmy Krankie . Whilst working at home, I've been watching Police Force Australia. todays episode covered 3 major crimes and the crims just own up on all of them. One of them in your neck of the woods, The Flight Centre Robberies, DS Troy Kendall (what a cracking super hero name) gets his man, well boy really and the kid just leads them to his lock up where they find the evidence. If the kid could change one thing, it wasn't that he wouldn't do it, but he would go back and not leave his DNA at one of the shops. The perps in all 3 just didn't care that they'd been caught and were quite happy to take whatever was dished out. No fight, no denial, nowt
Jobsworth Title of the day goes to the Sergeant on "stop sign duty" in Sydney, fining people for not actually coming to stop, the video shows her rolling but not enough to even register on her speedometer.
All in all though it got me thinking, because most of their ancestors are criminals anyhow. Policing seems quite relaxed as it is in the UK (largely) but despite carrying guns, is quite tame compared to the US, mind that is only going off TV programmes. I haven't seen a uniformed cop in Australia draw his gun, or even have his hand ready to go for his holster when approaching cars etc. Conclusion is that Yanks are gun toting, trigger happy twats, Aussie cops are almost comatose but ready for anything, and UK Cops just don't bother with those things that go bang unless they need highly trained firearms officers. Obviously the countries face different circumstances. So to cut a long story short and to create some debate whilst we work from home, what is gun crime like in Australia? Is it necessary for all cops to carry guns, what sort of training do they get and would the UK way not be possible in Aus?


Can't blame the yank cops for being gun toting trigger happy twáts when a lot of the citizens are :D
 
Can't blame the yank cops for being gun toting trigger happy twáts when a lot of the citizens are :D
:emoticon-0102-bigsm I actually blame the Neanderthal gun laws. if they didn't give people permission to carry guns, then the cops wouldn't. There is another cracking series Killer Neighbours, set in the USA and gives a good insight into how petty little arguments ends in death. Then following investigations they were apparently within their rights to kill
 
:emoticon-0102-bigsm I actually blame the Neanderthal gun laws. if they didn't give people permission to carry guns, then the cops wouldn't. There is another cracking series Killer Neighbours, set in the USA and gives a good insight into how petty little arguments ends in death. Then following investigations they were apparently within their rights to kill


I think the police would still have guns there when you think how many other countries carry them.

Their gun laws don't bother me, it's not my country and I don't live there.
If I did I'd admit to probably wanting to own a few :D

Most if not all the yanks i know own them, one has a AK-47 and another goes to Walmart with his Colt 1911 holstered and on show :D
 
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I think the police would still have guns there when you think how many other countries carry them.

Their gun laws don't bother me, it's not my country and I don't live there.
If I did I'd admit to probably wanting to own a few :D

Most if not all the yanks i know own them, one has a AK-47 and another goes to Walmart with his Colt 1911 holstered and on show :D
True dat, but that's another thing. In some states they can have them on show, in others they must be concealed and if asked by Police, they have to admit it. Its all very complicated and I can understand if you live off track in Alaska, carry a gun but if nipping to Walmart in Texas you don't need one in the car
 
Actually a quick question for @Ozzymac and @Evil Jimmy Krankie, did you just decide to live in Australia or did you decide you definitely wanted to be in Adelaide and Perth areas respectively and if so, why those places as opposed to Melbourne, Sydney, Scented Knob, ****a Creek or Fiddletown
It was wanting to live in Australia as a country. I looked into it a few years before it happened but as a cop there was no chance that Australia would take me. Likewise Mrs EJK was airline cabin crew (air hostess to the uninformed) so that wasn’t going to get us over here, well not permanently anyway. I was seriously considering packing in the cops and going back on the spanners being a qualified mechanic so I could get the relevant recent experience Australian immigration wanted.
Then the mining boom took off over here and some of the forces - South Australia and Western Australia - were losing officers hand over fist who decided being a miner was better than going to domestics every other shout. As such they were allowed to go abroad to recruit officers. I initially applied to South Australia but their recruiting plan was written on the back of a cigarette packet, so applied to WA instead. Hence me living in Perth. If Victoria or NSW were recruiting then the Krankie clan would have just as easily moved there instead.
Now that we’re in Perth the opportunity to go country is always there. Do I want to go to Tom Price, Panawonica, Perenjori, Mount Magnet? Not particularly. I’ve technically done my mandatory country service anyway by working in Perth lock up for three years. Hence why we still live in Perth.
But the first time I set foot in Australia was when I got off the plane when we emigrated. It was a big step into the unknown but one that has worked out very well. I can never say that we won’t move back to Blighty but it’s certainly not on the agenda at present.
 
It was wanting to live in Australia as a country. I looked into it a few years before it happened but as a cop there was no chance that Australia would take me. Likewise Mrs EJK was airline cabin crew (air hostess to the uninformed) so that wasn’t going to get us over here, well not permanently anyway. I was seriously considering packing in the cops and going back on the spanners being a qualified mechanic so I could get the relevant recent experience Australian immigration wanted.
Then the mining boom took off over here and some of the forces - South Australia and Western Australia - were losing officers hand over fist who decided being a miner was better than going to domestics every other shout. As such they were allowed to go abroad to recruit officers. I initially applied to South Australia but their recruiting plan was written on the back of a cigarette packet, so applied to WA instead. Hence me living in Perth. If Victoria or NSW were recruiting then the Krankie clan would have just as easily moved there instead.
Now that we’re in Perth the opportunity to go country is always there. Do I want to go to Tom Price, Panawonica, Perenjori, Mount Magnet? Not particularly. I’ve technically done my mandatory country service anyway by working in Perth lock up for three years. Hence why we still live in Perth.
But the first time I set foot in Australia was when I got off the plane when we emigrated. It was a big step into the unknown but one that has worked out very well. I can never say that we won’t move back to Blighty but it’s certainly not on the agenda at present.
Good story EJK. I'm just a nosy bastard so don't mind me.
Opal Hunting and gold mining are other programmes that I have watched. Australia is rich in that respect, which makes you wonder why we didn't do our homework before we sent criminals there. They literally walk across the outback and pick flecks of gold off the top soil in some cases. But also the different opals you can get and also the different values. Obviously a lot harder to mine opal though and some of those mines are mediaeval. People are giving up their whole livelihood to find their fortune
 
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Actually a quick question for @Ozzymac and @Evil Jimmy Krankie, did you just decide to live in Australia or did you decide you definitely wanted to be in Adelaide and Perth areas respectively and if so, why those places as opposed to Melbourne, Sydney, Scented Knob, ****a Creek or Fiddletown

My story's much simpler. Left the UK in 75 when my dad (ex RAF) got offered a job in the RNZAF so off to NZ we went. 5 years later he could either re enlist or move on. He could have gone to Papua New Guinea in the police force but instead took a job at the tracking stations in Canberra.

I spent the next 17 years in Canberra which is friggin cold in winter. My youngest was born 10 weeks prem with fluid on the lungs so i got a transfer to SA with work so the weather wouldn't kill him. Been here ever since.

As an aside, there's a place about 4 hours from here called Iron Knob :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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My story's much simpler. Left the UK in 75 when my dad (ex RAF) got offered a job in the RNZAF so off to NZ we went. 5 years later he could either re enlist or move on. He could have gone to Papua New Guinea in the police force but instead took a job at the tracking stations in Canberra.

I spent the next 17 years in Canberra which is friggin cold in winter. My youngest was born 10 weeks prem with fluid on the lungs so i got a transfer to SA with work so the weather wouldn't kill him. Been here ever since.

As an aside, there's a place about 4 hours from here called Iron Knob :emoticon-0102-bigsm
There was a village just up from us called Wet Wang in Yorkshire who the hell thought of these names
 
My story's much simpler. Left the UK in 75 when my dad (ex RAF) got offered a job in the RNZAF so off to NZ we went. 5 years later he could either re enlist or move on. He could have gone to Papua New Guinea in the police force but instead took a job at the tracking stations in Canberra.

I spent the next 17 years in Canberra which is friggin cold in winter. My youngest was born 10 weeks prem with fluid on the lungs so i got a transfer to SA with work so the weather wouldn't kill him. Been here ever since.

As an aside, there's a place about 4 hours from here called Iron Knob :emoticon-0102-bigsm
So Canberra isn’t in a particular state? Like Washington DC? Anyhow this may sound naive but Canberra isn’t a long way from Sydney, does it get cold in Sydney too, or were you just too acclimatised and cold was 15 degrees, wimp?
 
So Canberra isn’t in a particular state? Like Washington DC? Anyhow this may sound naive but Canberra isn’t a long way from Sydney, does it get cold in Sydney too, or were you just too acclimatised and cold was 15 degrees, wimp?
Canberra is in the Australian Capital Territory so not technically a state.
It doesn't get as cold in Sydney as Canberra is in the Southern Highlands not far from the snowy mountains (love the originality of the name). During winter it will get to minus 8 with up to a minus 15 wind chill factor as the winds blow through the valley. Summer temperatures can get to around 40.
 
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How @Evil Jimmy Krankie, Im gonna name drop just in case you know some of these Perth cops

Detective Jason Landers has a funny shaped head
Sgt Tim Ralli has a massive nose
Det. Sgt Darren McCruindon reckons he is one for ladies
Det. Sen Constable Andy Elliott is a bit skinny with a giraffe neck
Sen. Constable Jason Longhorn's fringe is at low tide, his head is too big for his hair
Det. Sen Constable Russ Whitmore is about 12
 
Interesting one today in Perth. It seems they have gone one step too far. An armed robber, taking money and drugs from a pharmacy. Nowt different about that you may say, but he was actually "armed" with a blood filled syringe and he told staff its his and he has an infectious disease