Ehab's view on the transfer window.

Oh ok...them

 

Aye, sorry, I know I'm being deliberately evasive, but I'm trying not to get myself dragged into this again.

 

I thought bummers was the top marcomms bloke on here but you've topped him den

 

Wait a second.

This rule they're choosing to ignore isn't actually a rule yet? At the moment there is no rule that states the club HAS to talk to the Trust specifically?

It's a Government plan, that's not been actually introduced yet?

Right.

 

WTF is a pie fork?

Is that like a butter knife? Pointless?

Who eats a pie with cutlery anyhow?

Next you'll be telling me you don't use your fingers when eating ribs or that you use a knife and fork for a pizza or burger.

Posh bastard.

 

Presumably Ehab could delegate another senior manager (if there is one) for such a meeting, so he wouldn't need to attend himself

 

I'm not arguing that the proposed new rules aren't good. I think they're desperately needed. But they're not actual rules yet.

But anyhow, rather than the confrontational style of approach, I still maintain someone calm and collected meeting with Ehab for a frank discussion and exchange of views would help us all enormously, and slagging off existing groups of fans is not helpful. Everyone plays their part in their own way.

 

Really?
That can't be right
No wonder you can't see him in the stand...he'll be tied to being almost permanently in the Control Room on matchdays!

Must be a different title?

 

Reconciliation, if it happens, isn't going to be easy. And its not as simple as Ehab using our name and re-introducing concessions without talking to supporters and/or groups representing supporters.

The reasons are fairly straightforward.

At the minute the club doesn't use our name, you'd think it would be easy to rectify. Our previous badge said our name was Hull City A.F.C. Our FA registered playing name is Hull City. Which one would we like the club to use? You may not be bothered and after the last few years either would be a relief. However a similar argument can be made over concessions where it is much more important in the short term. Then there's the badge. Do we want one with the name on? Do we use the current badge? Do we go back to the previous one? Do we want a new one to represent a new start? All important questions that we should have a say on.

If we say it doesn't matter about a meeting, just re-introduce concessions. The club could do that fairly easily. In the family stand they double the price paid by kids paying the existing family guarantee. Extend that to OAPs in the family stand by reducing their membership. They could extend it to those kids who bought their membership this season. Concessionary match day prices would be introduced but only for the family stand. Job done, you got what you asked for but would you be happy? I wouldn't.

Then there are the sores that haven't anything to do with concessions or the name. The evictions from the east stand, the closure of Upper West, the feelings of resentment from the imaginative abuse of the away supporters initiative money.

There are huge wells of resentment within the Tiger Nation. As we saw over the wide spread belief of the asset stripping claims that resentment doesn't have to be based on fact. That boil needs to be lanced and will take time and goodwill on both sides. Initially that goodwill will be very thin or non-existent.

So does Ehab have to meet representatives of the supporters? For me the answer is yes, a big yes. It says both sides are looking for a way out of the current toxic atmosphere then the sooner we meet with Ehab the better. Should it include the Trust? Of course. Thousands of City fans look to the Trust to stand up for them. They may not be members but they believe they will stand up for them. I don't think anyone can call me one of the Trust's ardent supporters, in fact, its the opposite, but they have to have a place at the table if Ehab is serious about healing some of the wounds that exist. Any meeting it should also include the OSC, Amber Nectar, City Independent, not606, the Facebook page and any other supporters group I've missed.

A final thought. After two games against Manchester United and Saturday's victory against Liverpool would you be wanting to sell the club come the summer? The Allams may be our owners for some time to come. If Ehab hinted at an olive branch in his video and Yorkshire Post interview we and he should know reconciliation will be difficult, but reconciliation without talking to the various antagonists will be doomed to failure.

 

Thousands look to the trust!! Rubbish.

There was no toxic atmosphere either yesterday. A sexy manager and winning games saw to that.
There doesn't need to be a table to get round. We saw last time with their we'll feed back count on us bullshit what happens.
The ****s sat round that table had a ****ing hand in the east evictions to north.
Just get concessions back number one thing.

 

I wasn't saying that though (and I've never thought he'd leave while we're in PL)
I was saying that he could, at least partially, sort the naming issue overnight. Hull City instead of Hull Tigers would do as a first step. He could do that without conversation, but simply announce that he had given the instruction to his staff because there would be no further attempts to change the name

That step by him first would mean any subsequent meetings might actually be useful

 

Ah, that makes more sense

 

Aren't we just The Tigers now?

 

I agree it doesn't take a specific organisation & somebody that isn't a ****.

So we must both agree that's the OSC ruled out.

The results of any meeting between them would ascertain that, despite what their few hundred members think, especially the ones with kids, everybody is happy with Hull Tigers Membership Scheme & this is proved because Liverpool was a sell out. The OSC are the experts on selling out after all.

The FB group are a joke group & not representative of supporters. They are a multi-club group & supporting Hull City is not a criteria of becoming a group member. They have no mandate & no structure. As a group it would be daft to even consider them.

Online persona's are often different to real life ones. I've met PLT a few times & found him to be knowledgable, trustworthy & loyal. He's passionate about what he believes in. I think these positive traits come across better in real life than on here. The one mistake he's possibly made is agreeing to his anonymity on here being lost.

Anybody meeting with Ehab would need to be patient, alert, experienced in similar meetings & knowledgable of what needs to be achieved.

What's happened has happened. To move on that needs to be forgotten & not dragged up & regurgitated. We don't need apologies, demanding one would create a wall & act as a blocker in any discussions. We don't need demands of any sort.

What is important is a resolution. This will only be achieved through mutual courtesy & it can be achieved through proper consultation & respectful negotiation.

My suggestion would be a mutually agreed independent third party, who could act as Chair & possibly Mediate some early discussions beteeen Ehab & a single Supporter representative. I have every confidence that GB is the person best placed & best qualified to pull it off on behalf of supporters.

Of course all the above is irrelevant if Ehab chooses not to engage, as his video suggested he would.

 

Depends which platform, website it still HT I think

Anyway he ought to make that simple change which he could do with one email

That would send a message that he is prepared to listen