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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    That's rich from you you weasel

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  2. yorkshirehornet

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    That says addressed to SH.. Not to Dan

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  3. I was thinking "bloody hell Yorkie's changed" <laugh> <hug>
     
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    I object to the use of weasels in the form of insults - this is speciesism at its worst. We had a weasel on our property for a long time, and it was wonderfull in keeping vole populations low. Give me weasels rather than Tories any time.
     
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  5. superhorns

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    Having been wrong on all your predictions so far you really should not fancy your chances of getting one right. It is rather hilarious that you have kept off the subject of growth for years whilst France has lagged behind the UK, it is only when the temporary slight reversal has taken place you dare discuss it. There was a good article in last week's ST which articulated a return to the UK's normal superiority on growth in the near future.

    Read PwC's confident UK forecast, be careful you might not be able to sleep properly tonight with this positive UK outlook!! :emoticon-0102-bigsm

    Brexit will not affect UK economy's long term future, a new study ...
     
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  6. superhorns

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    Don't forget if you don't go to sleep the EU father xmas won't visit you.

    seasonal greetings all.
     
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  7. oldfrenchhorn

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    Your arguments become more and more desperate with every post you make. France has reported the highest inward investment in 10 years, it is building offices for UK banks that have committed to leaving London, also International schools for the workers children that are coming. Slight reversal? How do you know what will happen by 2021 when the UK finally leaves if then? You decry forecasts then quote them. That is not reasoned thought process. PwC's forecast is for 2050. Will you or I be alive then? Time to get real SH. You know that this makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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  8. superhorns

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    You are desperately making a national case based on a possible small relocation of city staff to Paris. Most UK based companies would put Paris as their last choice due to the anti business attitude prevalent in France. The PwC's forecast is up to 2050, try to read it properly. It clearly states Brexit will not affect the UK's long term economic future. It also is very downbeat on France's chances saying it will drop out of the top 10% and Italy dropping out of the top 20%. The EU is increasingly becoming yesterday's story, it's economic world market share is decreasing rapidly.

    I don't mind reasoned forecasts, it just seems to be yours that are always wrong. I hope you are not a gambler.
     
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  9. oldfrenchhorn

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    For goodness sake. PwC still has not produced a positive outlook re Brexit. They just reduced the cost somewhat. They said exactly the same thing before. Brexit will be a one-off hit that won't change the long term trend, as long as NONE of the things that people voted Brexit for happens (i.e. no reduction in immigration, a positive relation with the EU, continued globalization). Globalization in real terms means pooling of sovereignty. So don't think for a moment that all those things you hoped for will happen, and maybe not before 2050, if then.

    They are assuming things will be pretty much the same as before, except we will have paid a lot of money and we won't be in the EU anymore. How is that a positive outlook? As I said before you are clutching at straws.
     
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  10. superhorns

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    Your maths is extremely suspect. It will only take a small number of years for the ransom effect to wear off leaving the UK up to 10 billion year better off by not subsidising other EU members. How can France afford to pay more with its massive mounting debt mountain? Will it just ignore it as at present? PwC obviously priced in the changes after Brexit, they completely dismiss the project fear nonsense you constantly peddle despite you being consistently wrong.
     
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    I am feeling rather sad for you tonight. Ransom. What is that about? 10 billion a year better off? That needs explaining as even the most rampant Brexiteers would have trouble with that. France does not have a mounting debt. It is doing rather well at reducing it while the UK sees its debt mounting. How many trillion is it now, £1.8 or what? PwC makes a stab at what might be the situation in 2050, providing that the UK stays close to the EU, doesn't reduce immigration, and gives up sovereignty to strike trade deals. Seems straight forward enough, but as you decry forecasts that are for just twelve months, it is quite touching to see the faith you place in one for after you are doubtful to be alive. Get real and admit there is no good news for you.
     
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  12. superhorns

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    This is fake news on a massive scale, do you just believe what you want to?

    France's debt is the largest in the euro- zone at over 2.3 trillion and rising fast. This is much larger than the UK's, I said your maths was suspect. PwC obviously gave France very little chance of improving it's dismal anti business industrial rulebook, leading to a steady decline. There is plenty of good news, you just have to lose your penchant for the negatives which you have found hard to come by so far.
     
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    I am afraid that you are losing the plot. What has the PwC report got to say on where France might or not be in 2050? It is about how all the things you want to get away from will not be fact unless you ditch them. Sad for you I know, but time to try and find some good news. I expect that your favourite sources might give you a headline, but as shown earlier today they are producing them and when looked at in detail prove to be false. Still if you wish to believe it carry on. The tide has turned and people are getting better informed as each day passes.
     
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  14. superhorns

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    This Price Waterhouse report simply states, in their opinion, the UK will fare much better outside of the EU than France inside the EU in the future. It also clearly concludes the UK's "favourable demographic factor and a flexible economy by European standards" gives it an edge especially against the French who are severely hampered by its economic non reforms. France's mounting serious debt level must also be a grave concern.

    France's unchecked growing national debt in case you missed it.

    France Debt Clock :: National Debt of France - World Debt Clock
     
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    The Centre for Economic and Business Research (CEBR) have admitted today their prediction of the downside of Brexit was overplayed and now predict the UK economy will overtake France again in two years. Despite fears of a "Brexodus" of financiers, the city has actually increased its lead as the world's financial centre since the referendum.

    We got it wrong on Brexit gloom, economists admit: Buoyant British economy is set to power past France by 2020

    Project fear was wrong about Brexit, global economic ranking concludes, as UK looks set to overtake France
     
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    David Davis has correctly warned Barnier and Brussels that the EU cannot 'cherry pick' a free-trade deal which leaves out financial services. If the negotiations are going to break down, please kindly make it sooner rather than later.
     
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    So far, it's only been the UK which has attempted cherrypicking. And have been rebuffed every time.
     
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