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Off Topic Education... what's it to you?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Tel (they/them), Jun 9, 2016.

  1. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member
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    It certainly is, going by the cars in her company's car park!!

    She'll do well mate I'm sure. She's always been a grafter. She'll be the first to admit she ain't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, she just achieves from sheer graft!

    And by the way, she's a real beautiful lass! Still, never mind, you prefer the older types.

    And no!! No pic's!
     
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  2. Brian Storm

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    I can't live not knowing if my rent can be paid for one week to the next, that would make me ill. Could be my only choice. Or not declare my illness which would give me no protection from grudge holding senior staff when my health inevitably effects my performance.
     
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  3. Commachio

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    7 years.

    Nee wonder i find it hard to get one.
     
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  4. Commachio

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    I can imagine people get fed up at times.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    How are the questions worded in the applications, is it one of them catch all questions, "Do you, or have you ever" sort of thing?

    The other alternative is to go it alone, you're not a nugget mate, walls are there to be knocked down.

    To any actual nuggets reading this, I don't mean that walls thing in a literal sense... put the hammer down.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    It doesn't actually ask on apps in regards to mental health. But it's usually asked in interviews if there's any health problems besides those listed on the application form. But I know residential health and social settings, it's full cliques, day to day ran by internally promoted staff, it's all very messy and personal, anything is held against if you're not transparent from the off. Staff are always just waiting for the next 'outsider' to turn against. The field has one of the biggest staff turnovers out there, many assume this is because of the service users, when in fact it's usually the working environment and attitudes which drives new staff straight out of the door.

    May just have to abandon my entire career(which I loved) and start on a fresh path. Such a world of unknown it that though, I wouldn't know where to start. It scares the ****e out of me. I've not worked a non support worker job since I was about 20.
     
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  7. marcusblackcat

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    I have no degree and a very good job for decent money (could more than double it working in London doing the same for a private firm but I work for the NHS and the benefits are excellent - pension, holidays/leave entitlement etc.)

    Did 2 years of a degree then got a job and liked the income a little too much to go back so stuck with work and have worked full time ever since!
    Got a few teching quals now which have been paid for by previous and current employer but don;t need the degree to do it.

    If I wanted to tech children, then I'd have to get a degree but I'm fully qualified to tech anyone over 16 in IT or Maths!

    As for student loans - I still have mine and, in 6 years time, if I am not earning over £30k it will be wiped out (25 years)

    I will be earning over £30k on my current employment band in the NHS so that's a no go!
     
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  8. MrRAWhite

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    I took on a degree in my mid forties which has proved essential in earning me a promotion into management.
    I have never heard of this thing about the government selling off student loans and would be amazed and astounded if they were allowed to get away with this.. If, true it would have massve consequences for my kids, one of which has just finished a degree and does have a whopping student debt..
     
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  9. seabreeze

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    I wouldn't be the roofer I am if it wasn't for me spending all my education money on booze and pot .
    As for living from payday to payday I would miss the feeling of that last box of Kraft dinner the day before payday if I was financially successful
    I get payed 500 $ , I spend 300 $ on booze , 100 $ on pot and I spend the last 100 $ foolishly .
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    I'll try and find the rant for you mate...
     
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  11. Tel (they/them)

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36388011

    That's an article in the BBC about the guy, didn't take long to find as it happens, not sure if it's verbatim to the rant I read, but fill ya boots.

    "The letter says that he believes the interest rates were hiked after the loans were sold to a private company - though this turns out to be incorrect".

    Maybe that explains it then.
     
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  12. crumble bungle

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    I started work in Clarke Chapman's as an apprentice welder, 4 years later i had served my time and was a good welder.
    Moved away from "home" and got sponsored Asme IX (stick root and fill) and Asme IX (tig root and stick fill) which is a very good level of welding.
    Moved about a bit down here and landed a job as a trainee designer with no qualifications other than experience of fabrications that i used to build etc.
    My current job is as a designer and i work with a couple of lads who have degrees and are very switched on with computers etc. but basically lack the common sense that i have when it comes to designing something that someone has to physically build.
    A good mix of apprenticeships...proper ones not just a 3 month learning curve and degrees works well at our place.
    I ask them computer stuffs and they ask me to check their designs to make sure they can be build...works well, simples.
     
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  13. Commachio

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    All makes sense to me.
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

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    Nobody likes a bragger mate.
     
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  15. Commachio

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    Some catch a lucky break.
     
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    that's what it was, being in the right place at the right time, not bragging as i aint got nothing worth bragging about.
    If i could wind the clock back i would still be welding because the new graduates are streets ahead of me now and i am struggling to keep up with them.
     
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  17. Commachio

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    I blagged my way into Siemens making microchips ffs. Didnt have a clue.

    Last job manager of an import company.

    Now for 5 1/2 years manager of a construction company.

    Its all gaff. Ive never needed a bit of paper. Waffle, lie and wing it.
     
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  18. BobbyD

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    I went to university 12 years ago. Studied Science and now work in IT.

    How did i rate university? Irrelevant to getting a job. I had a great time, wasted some time how i wanted but i only had to pay 1 grand a year to do it (minus loss of earnings + cost of living). As others have said, University is definitely overrated and at 9k a year i would discourage my children to go if it wasn't for a specialised degree like medicine, or science or something that you needed for a job.

    If they wanted to go for a business degree or accounting degree or anything like that, i would STRONGLY encourage them to pick a course that had a sandwich year in industry as i believe for anyone nowadays, the biggest problem of coming out of university is finding that first job. I struggled massively and was jobless for a year before i was fortunate enough to have help from my brother getting my first role. I didn't have any job experience and even though i'd like to think i'm really smart, i'm an absolute invalid when it comes to speaking so i was always going to struggle to get a job without any experience.

    Doing a sandwich course enables you to get that years worth of relevant experience and the people i know who have done it have usually been offered a job by that company after (as long as you weren't total ****).
     
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  19. Commachio

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    A sandwich year sounds good. Nee idea what one is like.

    I did a 5 year beer gap. That was good. But im guessing we are on different lines here.

    Although i should have eaten some bacon sarnies
     
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  20. BobbyD

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    Its a course where you do 4 years instead of 3. I think typically the third year you work in industry with basically the uni finding you the job at a company where you get paid to work for the year. You then go back to uni to finish your degree.

    Didnt do one myself though but everyone i know who has pretty much got themselves jobs straight away
     
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