They did not. Until the USA banks went belly up we had the longest period of growth for over 200 years we were paying off the national debt and we were investing in infrastructure. Once the banks broke the world economy Gordon Brown provided the leadership and ideas to preven a complete melt down. It is a complete me dis lie that Labour crashed the economy.
I think he is trying to say that the press are having a bash at the Tories for messing up the economy, which is utter bollocks..If Labour had their record it would be headline news.
The hardest part to take in the current political scene is that the two biggest fiasco's of the 20th century in the 1929 and 1987 market failures were caused by the bankers. Government control was introduced after the '29 one to prevent it happening again but Reagan and Thatcher removed all of those controls in their terms to allow market forces to thrive and "turn the world into a better place".
I couldn't agree more with this. I lived in the States at the time, the economy fell so fast when news started to filter through...I have never seen anything so quick. It was always only a matter of time (and I mean days or a few weeks) before the UK and the rest of Europe were deeply involved in this US led banking crash. I always have a wry smile when I hear the Tories blame Labour for the crash, never mentioning once what was at the epicenter of why this happened in the first place. I have always been a Labour guy, its in my DNA, but if shove came to push now, I would have to trust the Tories with the finances, because from what I hear from Corbyn, if he was in charge, the country would be bankrupt. He is talking fantasy politics.
That is a very interesting listen Roo...... Never really considered this guy for President, he show have this shown on commercials for his candidacy....straight talking guy, I like him.
There was a flaw in his ideology! Not really that funny though is it. The same charges were laid against Thatcher when she destroyed the manufacturing base in this country and laid the foundations of a service economy on the basis we couldn't compete with growing third world economies. I wonder where she got her ideas from
I can separate my feelings towards somebody's political views and their general character, I often have a great time chatting away to Bri on here but we both support different political parties. All that means is I have the respect there for him not to judge him on his political bias. I think similar with you, some of your posts make me think 'What the ****, how on earth can somebody be that different to me?' but the majority of the time I can get on with you just fine, because I respect you as a person first. I'm not suggesting politics makes people fall out permanently, maybe it does sometimes, but it causes friction at the drop of a hat, I can't think of another subject that can split a room down the middle so effortlessly. In a way I admire the way you can empathise with an entire demographic without knowing them personally, for me I have to be able to put a face and a story to each person to understand their strife, because I'm not programmed to throw blankets over groups of people, that will no doubt include lazy people, fat people, drug addicts, people with a general victim mentality etc. I know there are genuine people out there struggling but coming from a poor background, raised by a single mother who worked three jobs to put food on the table for her three sons, I don't have the time for people who want to get their little violin out and sing about how sad they are. One thing I will say, is that I'm not deluded enough to think one party has ruined this country more than the other. Both parties have made mistakes, Blair will carry a boulder on his back forever for wasting billions going into Iraq but I know for damn sure the Tories would have went in on GW Bush's instruction also.
I agree with most of that mate, but will have to clarify my position regarding the two areas I have highlighted. On the first point I do not emphathise with an entire demographic at all. I do however have empathy for ideals and principles, which is why I lean towards politics of a more caring nature. On the second point, I think you will find it is no contest if you look at the two parties actually reducing the national debt whilst in government, with Labour winning hands down. The fact is that the only times that the national debt has increased after Labour left office was down to two massive global financial events which were the Wall St Crash and the banking crisis that occurred during Brown's tenure. However, it is the great British Tory supporting media that promote the narrative regarding the Tories being more trusted with the economy..
That's what I meant by you empathising with an entire demographic, those who are 'most needy'... many people, in my mind, fall into this category by default, they are needy because they choose to be, they are inherantly lazy. There are obviously many, probably more, who are genuinely in need of support but that's not something governments create, that's something mankind creates, it's natural selection. There will always be weak and there will always be powerful in species on this planet, humans attempt to create some sort of parity and that's where people start blaming others for those who have not necessarily thrived during their lives. As for the second part, I am choosing not to engage, not because I think you're right or wrong, but I don't want to go where it ends up.
As far as I can tell from quotes from the budget Osbourne has missed his target again and is sugar coating it using a variety of other jargon filled figures and statistics and the media and general public are going to carry on just accepting that he's doing a great job. It's all smoke and mirrors just like it always is when it comes to the economy and politics, politicians using whichever jargon filled statistics best fits the lies and half truths that they are about to tell, knowing full well that Joe Public doesn't know enough about the global and British economy to realise that we are being played. It's not just the tories that do it labour are just as bad when it comes to arguing their point against them. Just to clarify my position I side much more with labour than the tories, I think the current government have done an ok job of cutting the deficit so far and have done well to get the economy up and running again but I fundamentally disagree with the way that they have gone about it, cutting public spending and services in areas that most impact the poorest in society. Put simply I think Osbourne is going to continue to cut funding to areas which will have the greatest impact on the poorest in society, which is something which I simply cannot agree with.
Personally I think Osbourne is a total **** who should be shot in the cock with a .410 & then be injected with HIV.
This one blog today - tells me enough that what is happening in our selfish Tory led society - like I said earlier I believe most politicians are heartless ****s , I would suggest the the movers and shakers that govern us now are sociopathic ****s - and they're bigger ****s than the norm ! Open letter from quadriplegic to Osborne: how is taking £120 a month from me going to get me back to work? 16WednesdayMar 2016 Posted by Tom Pride in hopeless naivety ≈ 24 Comments This open letter to George Osborne was posted on Facebook. Please feel free to share: I don’t usually do this sort of thing, but I am so downright disgusted I feel the need to say something. Please feel free to share this post, in the vain hope that somebody who can make a difference might get to see it. Dear Mr Osborne, I am intrigued by your methods and incentives to get disabled people back to work. I have been a quadriplegic for a last 13 years of my life. Let me give you a brief description of what this entails. I have to employ a team of four carers as there is practically nothing I can do for myself. A few of these things I can’t do include going to the toilet as I need someone to stimulate my bowels digitally, holding and having any kind of sexual relationship with my wife, playing with or indulging in any physical activity with my two sons, getting out of bed or going to bed without the aid of carers, dressing myself, picking up anything as my hands do not work, feeding myself, drinking by myself, scratching any itches on my face which is the only part of my body that I have any sensation. I am writing this using a speech recognition program as I cannot use a computer keyboard properly. If you have any sense at all you will realise that I am wheelchair-bound and to be quite honest the list of what I can’t do is so endless that there’s not much point in me continuing to expand any further. Suffice to say that all I am really capable of is seeing (through glasses that have to be put on and removed for me) hearing (using hearing aids that have to be inserted and removed for me) swallowing food (which has to be fed to me by someone else) and that’s about it. Can you explain to me and the myriad others that find themselves in my position, sometimes worse, how decreasing my disability benefit by £120 a month is an incentive for me to get back to work. Perhaps you could outline for me what sort of work people in my condition would be capable of? Yours truly, Someone speaking on behalf of the severely disabled.
