thanks monacoger ..... I know Mick is on holiday that is why we have been waiting As this was still dragging on, I PM him yesterday & asked him to stop procrastinating, he answered my PM & put his lengthy reply on the mods board last night. Maybe he values brb & myself ..... as if he wants to remain a lazy b ..... he needs to keep us sweet
To be honest, I don't even know what the argument was about and not really sure I want to. Maybe one night I am drunk, I will ask Dan or Hash on GC. I still can't see Mick reading through loads of threads though, he is too busy deleting ST's tranny porn from GC!
Minxy, you have been on our board often enough to know that we don't actually get enough trouble to need a set of rules posted telling people how to behave. Clearly other boards are different and what you are in effect saying is that their mods cannot deal with some of the posters. Why try to say that our mods could have complained through certain channels when brb was offensive? His remarks were shown to be ill considered and he was told so. You must have agreed, otherwise you wouldn't have removed them. My question was simple. Who are the supermods as both of you had said you had given up? I don't wish to have a song and dance whenever someone new is appointed. All that is needed is somewhere on the site that explains the structure and who the people are. Do not forget that until this blew up a lot of us had no idea what was in place.
Nah, that would have been Hash with one of his many different accounts, you have to keep an eye on him, he is a wee rascal.
At the moment brb & I are still super-mods, Mick is on holiday, as I explained if we had both just walked away from the job nobody would be in charge. Can you imagine what fun the GM posters could have on our football boards if they knew there was no one to ban them, there would be porn everywhere which board mods would need to continuously delete with no one to give them a board ban. Up until now when posters need information I would expect them to ask their own board mods, who should be aware of the information. Mick has asked us to reconsider ..... which I am thinking about ..... I have no idea of brb's thoughts on the subject If you have an idea of where you would like to see the info displayed please suggest it & we will happily look into it. If it means Mick getting his screwdriver out to create a new area ..... beware when he fixes things he usually causes grief to the whole site
As for brb's remarks .... he was cross ..... he could have worded his replies better. I was trying to say, if you found them offensive your mods could have removed them, to save this whole issue dragging on so long. However if you have no rules on your forum it is hard to know when they are broken ..... therefore as super-mod I made a judgement call which I believe was right. Interestingly I could have completely deleted the comments leaving no trace but I left them there as deleted posts so that Mick would be able to see what had been said
If I was a gambling man I would say there is no way you will stand down, in fact I would go as far to say that you have already made up your mind to stay on. I can feel it in my water.
If you were a guy, you would stand down, but because you are female, you wouldn't want to miss out on the gossip from the mod boards, or so Dan Starkey was telling me
This thread was intended (I think) to bring to an end an unfortunate argument. Can I make a few points - I did not know that supermods even existed until a few days ago. Now that I do and if Minxy is correct ( I have no reason to disbelieve her) then they are very necessary for the site as a whole. The super mods appear to have a lot to do and they try to do it well I would guess. Equally we have a mod structure and I think the site set up is intended to let the mods of a board make the decisions necessary for that board. If you polled the Watford board I suspect you would find a near unanimous support for our two mods. We are not generally a hard board to control and when we do disagree it is generally polite and on the odd occasion it gets more heated we resolve it pretty smoothly. We like it like that. I do not believe the supermods should get involved on an individual board unless the mods ask for their help - or if the supermods are made aware that the mods are not doing their job properly - eg allowing porn, racism, sexism etc. Let us not try to police the entire site in the same way - some boards are very different to others. If there are rules that the supermods enforce I think these should be open and transparent so that at least the site as a whole knows where they stand. If we disagree with a rule the site should welcome open debate about it and try to find a better solution if one is required - or requested by a board. Most of us disliked the way the mods operated on BBC606 - we do not want to replace that with a dictatorial not606 style of modding. I am not saying that is what we have -only that it is something I suspect few would support. Where does that leave us? I think it means that a board should be able to decide who is and who is not banned from their board. If a poster needs to be disciplined in the first instance that should come from the board and its mods. Just because someone is banned on another board - or even many does not mean that an individual board should not be allowed to welcome them. That does not undermine other boards, nor is it disrespectful to other mods or supermods - it is simply following the original principles of this site - namely that the boards are self policing. I do not know enough about the supermod position nor about brb and Minxy personally - I suspect at times they will get very frustrated and angry. I also suspect they are trying to do a time consuming and difficult job as well as they can - let them continue to do that while they want to. I do ask though that even now they reconsider. Ask yourselves if harm will come to the site if Busy Bee is allowed to post on Watford 's board. If you decide that no harm will come then trust our mods to police his return themselves and they will come back to you if they decide after all they cannot support his return. There has been a lot of things said that people probably wish they had not said here - let us put that behind us and continue as we were.
Thank you Leo you have put very well what I have been thinking. Let us see some of the power devolved down to the mods where possible, so that they can warn off a poster who misbehaves. I have no idea what goes on elsewhere as I only use the football forum, but do notice that well over half of the teams do not have any mods as the club fans do not use this site. I will shut up for now and wait and see what happens, but still believe that a one size fits all rule is open to being questioned.
Thank you for that The difficulty with Busy Bee was he had already received a site ban under a different name. The rule we work with is that once a site ban has been given .... any further accounts made by the same person is automatically banned immediately it is discovered. If I had not, out of politeness to the Watford board, explained why a new poster claiming to be a Watford fan had been banned, none of this discussion would have ever started. Mick, the owner, has agreed Gimme's ban should stand, therefore Busy Bee cannot be reinstated. However I believe he maybe back again but have not yet got enough evidence to prove it. If it is proved to be him, he will be gone again this time without any explanation Now I am truly fed up with this subject & just need to decide whether to stand down or not.
I'm only messing, I'm just bored. On another note, I went to see Peterborough play when I lived in Market Deeping many years ago, think they were playing against Cheltenham or Rushden and Diamonds maybe, we left at half time if I remember correctly and went into the city centre to get drunk. Think you won 1-0 though, it would have been 1999/2000 season. http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/179858-Minxy-s-Arms?p=6808669#post6808669
Message from brb " The site owner supports our decision on banning gimme site wide... Via private message to brb...and there is a statement on the mod board... Brb has stated in this conversation....that he did not wish gimme's ips to be blocked but if another persona is found then maybe that will need to be considered"
OK - you have made it quite clear that there is no flexibility in the rules. It is not about what you did or did not do out of politeness - the discussion would still have taken place as the Watford board appear to want Busy Bee to be able to post on our board. We do not care about any past transgressions that do not affect the Watford board. I am not surprised that Mick is supporting you and brb - nice little closed shop there is there - shame he does not explain why he thinks it is correct and then poll the whole Watford board to see if we agree. Of course he wont and as the site is his he gets what he wants. I actually was never quite certain how sincere the resignation threats were but will find out in due course. I am so sorry this subject bores you so much - for some of us personal liberty is one of the most important aspects of life and we don't accept infringement of liberty lightly. I know for sure that if the Watford posters as a whole decided not to accept the decision and moved to another site it would get some unwelcome attention in the media. But don't worry that wont happen as I am sure you all know. I know I am wasting my breath so reluctantly will have to accept the diktat.
