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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    The more I see of him the more he comes across as Ray Alan’s dummy Lord Charles.
     
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  2. Montysoptician

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    That's not true Fell Top, all MP's are bound by the House of Commons Code of Conduct, however government misters are also bound by the Ministerial Code
     
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  3. Montysoptician

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    Ha ha now you've done it Rooch, I'll never get that image out of my mind now, every time I see Starmer I'll think of Lord Charles' catchphrase “You silly arse"
     
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  4. FellTop

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    The tories will be a party with no influence next time around. May even be challenged by the lib dems (hopefully, my party of choice). No way will organisations want to pay them consultancy roles. I am surprised the likes of Hancock and Kwarteng didnt suss it for a scam, as one MP supposedly did. They are likely the two least relevant ex ministers to have on your books. They must have some ego to be honest.

    If Starmer does indeed ban all second jobs I will give him all the praise. It is needed. An MP role is a full time one last time I checked.
     
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  5. FellTop

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    100%
     
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  6. FellTop

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    Cheers mate. I thought there was some rule about it but what you says makes more sense.
     
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    Nobody expects politicians to be completely altruistic, but the sheer scale of the lust for money of these venal Tories is immeasureable. There literally isn't anything they will not do for money, and that's when the conflict with being a public servant starts
     
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  8. rooch 3

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    We are talking about £10,000 here mate, everyone seems to have forgot Mandelson’s £450.000 that slipped his mind. Oh! Sorry that’s history because it’s a Labour lad<doh>
     
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    I don’t think people are ignoring the fact MPs from Labour have done things for their own financial gain. However, considering the current state of the economy these MPs are more than happy to spend time on other “projects” as long as the money is right…and it doesn’t matter what country is paying them.

    I have no problem with MP’s earning an additional income as long as it doesn’t interfere with the job they are paid to do.

    (It’s also £10k a day and not a loan for a house which will eventually be paid back…if that’s what you meant by Mandelson?)
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    You'd think government ministers and Tory politicians would, due to the state of the country, concentrate their efforts on making some kind of difference. But the likes of Hancock, Rees-Mogg, Mordaunt, Dorries, etc, all seem to find plenty of time for game shows, etc.

    Nothing wrong with that, I suppose, but the country is in a mess. The conundrum is, they know that they're only 'celebrities' while they're in office so use the fact the public voted them in by taking advantage ...

    ... once they fall from power, and no longer have that responsibility, they become strictly B-list, even Boris Johnson despite his self image of being a superstar.

    If he's deselected he'll end up a glorified after dinner speaker on the Paul Gascoigne circuit <laugh>
     
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    Aye you would think so.

    With the state our country is in and the ever widening gap in the voting intention polls it just comes across as MP's trying to get as much as possible before the ship finally sinks.
     
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    Just after I typed that I had a sudden image of The Bishop of Hereford from Robin Hood Prince of Thieves :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  13. rooch 3

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    My memory may be wrong but although he payed back the loan when he sold the house did he not pocket the other zillion pounds he made on the house? And you can f uck off with your like DH4 you gormless twat.
     
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    Aye I agree it was over the top and purely for personal financial gain, not arguing against that .
     
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    This is exactly what they are doing, feathering their nests before the inevitable transpires <laugh>
     
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    Politicians like Hancock, Gove, Rabb, Williamson, etc, are becoming the Steve Bruce of politics ...

    ... endless boasting and excuses to distract from doing such a crap job followed by a pay off and a spell on the beach waiting for the next job.

    Meanwhile Liz Truss is the Tony Adams equivalent ...

    ... someone who's performance and staying power was in direct contrast to their ego and have hopefully vanished forever <laugh>
     
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    The situation, as I see it, is the same as it was when Brown went into the last year of a long Labour government. Terrible economic situation with unemployment problems, huge national debt after global challenges, a government no longer trusted by the voting public due to their own actions (sleaze was the accusation of the day then too - email scandal anyone, plus the bigger and obvious actions). The Labour party at that time, were in my opinion, not able to govern. I see so many similarities now, in terms of impact on my life, it should be no surprise really I cant support a labour party. It isnt so long ago. Worryingly it seems Labour are wheeling out the key players from that era. Starmer has Blair speech writer by all accounts. Brown has been influential in key policy. Blair has even been rolled out. There have even been accusations Mandehlson has been part of an advisory group. So when people say we cant know what a Labour govt will be like I scratch my head. Unless they convince us otherwise I will reasonably believe they will repeat history. The signs are there and I have no interest in a repeat and rinse situation.

    I am now a strong advocate for the Lib Dems. So before I am accused of being a tory sympathist, again, I want to be clear where my allegiances lie. The 2 main parties have had long runs in the last 25 years, and this is where we are. I want neither of them any more involved in my kids future frankly. I have no faith and no trust in them.
     
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    They approached 12 Tories, 4 Labour and one other. Only 4 Tories took the bait :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    It'll be the other way round next time.

    Confident?
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    Just think how wonderful Britain could've been ...

    ... there's not a lot to be proud of at the moment.

    In fact we only seem to be the best at boasting about being better than other countries. It's all about how we're world class at this and leading the world in that. Sunak was recently boasting a 'historic Brexit deal' when it was nothing of the sort.

    I just don't like this little island against the world mentality tbh.
     
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