That is 100% fair mate. I try to be equally critical, and as balanced as possible. To be honest I usually stay away from politics because I get too emotional. I am probably unfair on Labour, and demand more of them, because to be honest I really want to see the Labour party of old re-emerge. I think that is the party politics I would like my kids to adopt.
It's an absolute no-lose strategy. Develop a good policy, if the Tories pinch it - 'look at how good this policy is. Imagine if we didn't have to wait for the Tories to steal it before it gets implemented'. The unwritten rules of politics are weighted heavily in favour of an incumbent government. Change the ****ing rules. Go and win rather than wait for the other side to lose.
I agree, but we can only hope. History shows us that both parties had a rush for the centre ground. Blair won then lost it. Years later Cameron had to appease the Right of the party and give them a Brexit vote which he thought would give him the remain vote he wanted. The coward walked and after a series of infighting Boris turned our politics into a popularity contest. With an 80 seat majority he still messed up as he was all waffle and bluster but no work. Truss got in and the Right of the party took over to disastrous results. We are now in another race for the centre ground. As the tories have trashed our economy for years to come, I'm happy to give Labour a chance to put things right.
Two great posts in a row, l too am a floating voter and brought up in a Labour household. However when my shop steward mam retired she announced at the next election she was voting Tory, when asked why, she said l worked all my working life and Labour hasn't done anything for me. The opposition should be working for their constitutes and for the British people. Surely anyone who work's is working class and believe we are all the same and class should not exist.
I try to keep out of political discussions because I strongly believe that we live in a democracy and it's got nothing to do with me what other people think or how they vote but sometimes I let myself down when I see or hear something obviously misleading. I shall thrash myself in penance
That last para is perfect mate. My Dad was union man all his working life. Completey disillusioned at the end. Political ideology is long gone, now it is all about selling your soul for power.
I can remember mam coming back from a meeting were 3000 employees would dicuss the company pay offer of 5%. 60 members of staff turn up and she said the rest were probably at home watching Crossroads. Her decision was dammed if we do, dammed if we don't
Anyone can be critical but it has to be fair. I am nearly certain that the poster will have always voted conservative for multiple elections. Has zero intention to vote for anyone else.
He is entitled to vote for who he likes. But to continually carp on about the OPPOSITION when his party have been in power for 12 long years is pathetic. It is akin to criticising the reserve team centre forward who has yet to make his debut, when the first team striker isn't scoring goals.
Not to mention a string of own goals, injuring his team mates, shagging the keepers wife, knifing a string of managers in the back, demanding a starting place from the new manager, breaking lockdown rules, decimating the club's finances, putting the foreign players in a tent on a field with no proper facilities and, worst of all, alienating their own supporters while absolving themself from any blame over the last twelve years No, let's blame the reserve striker for failing to explain exactly how he plans to score every goal, how he proposes to attack the defenders and then beat the keeper
My voting intentions are readily available upthread. I vote for whoever is most likely to beat the SNP candidate. That means I've gone Lib Demx2 and Labourx2 in the last four elections. Before that was a proxy vote my dad did because I was inevitably out of the country when there was an election on, so they'll all have been wasted on Labour in Sunderland. Never voted Tory. Although if they're closest to the SNP, I'll vote Tory. 'that's your plan? Call him a Tory again?'
I'd quite like the opposition to win. However, just waiting to have it handed to them, as they're currently doing, indicates to me they haven't got the talent or gumption to go out and grab it. The electoral system means Labour can pile up vote after vote in their safe seats, but they've got to go and convince people who either vote Tory holding their nose or are undecided. Plus all of those who usually vote Labour but didn't vote at all in 2019. If you think they can do that by acting like sixth-form politicians with zero depth and name calling as their first resort, then I don't know what to tell you, other than the Tories will have less work on to turn this round than you think they do.
It's so automatic and total that it has to be a wind up. Apologies if I'm wrong but it just comes across as deliberately contrary.
Not attacking constantly does not equal defence. I'm interested in how and why political decisions are made. Which means trying to understand rather than blindly criticising or supporting. It would be far easier to sit here and screech constantly about evil Tories, but that's how you end up baffled as to how they've won come election night. A vicious cycle which ends with you calling everyone who thinks even slightly differently than you a Tory.
I say one thing for you you keep coming back, please don't take it personally but your either brave or plain stupid l have no idea, but are you Matt Hancock?
To a certain extent that is right, "if you are not for me, you are against me" Or "my enemies enemy is my friend"
