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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Boris is a compulsive lying cheat with zero sense of responsibility.
     
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    blackcatforever Well-Known Member

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    He's lass is running the country better than borris.
     
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  3. Chip

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    No your wages wont go up proportionately. All we will see is a squeeze in the middle, more responsibility for no reward for those already on £15 per hour. So no one is happy in the end. Especially if you are busting your balls for no reward on these incomes.

    Imagine the middle managers who are responsible for the minimum wage workers being paid similar money as them when they don't give a ****e about what they are doing and are not held responsible for anything while the manager lives and dies on what they are producing below him. I would take a step back and join them on £15 per hour
     
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  4. And there you have the fundamental problem mate......Labour doesn't link any increases in wages with a corresponding increase in productivity.
    Will the remaining 9 employees be able to produce the same as the 13 you have at present to provide for the unemployment benefit which will need to be paid to the 4 who've lost their job?
     
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    And there lies the answer, the Government are only as strong as the opposition. And I'm afraid this opposition are totally useless. And that pains me.
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

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    That’s exactly what the right said when Labour introduced the minimum wage but the truth was that both living standards and productivity did increase.
     
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    Its strange how labours opponents rush to defend Stamer and attack Corbyn and every opportunity. <laugh>
     
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  8. rooch 3

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    I can tell you there’s not much appetite from them when they get in and can buy a £70 bottle of Houses of Parliament whisky for £10 a pop, all it does is give them less space to store stuff under there stairs as it’s rammed full of the stuff.Say anything and all you get is, but it’s allowed, immoral bastards.
     
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  9. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    He’s got two as I won’t be voting Labour until there’s a massive change and they get rid of those loony f uckers in that video.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    I see Starmer as half Tory :emoticon-0130-devil I can understand why the far-left of Labour don't like him. Not sure he's been rubbing shoulders with McGuiness, Adams, (Name a terrorist organisation here) - That helps in my thought process about who to like and not like.
     
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  11. Fair enough mate. I'm a thicko in these matters. Appreciate your input.
     
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    I think that's mainly because most people think its important to have a realistic option in opposition, to test the party in power. Its Corbyn and his acolytes that have made Labour unelectable. The Corbynites still in the shadow cabinet have one weapon in their arsenal: name-calling. Starmer, no matter how useless he is, represents a move away from the immature Momentum-backed crowd.
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    It must be horrendous being an honest decent person in any political party.
     
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  14. Pure River Slut

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    Surely the simple answer is to cap executive wages. If people had to pay more for the low paid they’d have to reduce it for the high earners to cover costs. Too many people struggling while working because of economics. I wouldn’t call myself far left by any means they get on my wick but what a difference it would make to our nation if the top and bottom earners weren’t as far apart. Maybe there has to be some flex on numbers but I agree with the principle.
     
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    I agree. it is the simple answer, which is probably why it will never happen, divide and rule is the mantra of the right.
     
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    Well boris has won then, two vote's doe's it, and he's not loony ffs.
     
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    Not sure there is such a thing, even if they start off that way, a short while is all it takes to jump on the freeloading bandwagon and abandon everyone else.
     
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    No mate that would fall back on me to work probably 16 hour shifts 6 days a week.
    Believe me I would love to be able to pay my staff £15 per hour, they really work hard enough, problem is the business is making the money to do that or otherwise I would have already been paying them that
     
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    Do you not think so, I do.
     
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  20. Pure River Slut

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    Fair play to you. Credit where credit’s due. I run a not for profit and we pay the living wage the 15 would be a stretch too far for us also I think but there’s probably a bit of flex to do more by cutting down specialist fees. It would cause some drama and make things hard to deliver stuff at times but the good thing about a strong policy like this is that Ito forces change. There are some big players who could do it and don’t though
     
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