Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

So do I, at the moment, but if you want a party to f uck it up, Labours your boys

 

I don't think they will. They have had a big clear out and they are not the party of the Corbyn years.

 

Labour have a leader who is about as trustworthy as Boris, without the charisma (without ANY charisma), and as 'out of touch' as most others, and if there was an election 'now' Wishy Washy, who will soon be P.M., would keep the Cons in power, unfortunately.

No credible opposition, means no change

 

Have to challange you there. Starmer is trustworthy and nothing that is fact checked has challenged that. To compare to Boris who has been proven multiple times and sacked for libel is really unfair and inaccurate.

Labour needed someone closer to the centre line and.opposite to Corbyn to have any chance. That's what we have and that's why lost of closer steats are going to labour in the by elections. Middle class can relate.

 

Airports in chaos, Trains on strike and, today, the Port of Dover is telling people to give up trying to cross the Channel ...

... so as the school holidays begin, and people try and fail to get away, Boris is lounging around Chequers boasting about his 'legacy'

In reality he's the John Candy character ...

... scruffy, clueless and guaranteed to f**k things up.

 

It's all about perception, come General Election time.

IF a particular person is considered to be trustworthy, under normal circumstances, they are 80% there.
Boris won last time on a single issue, BREXIT.
Corbyn knew he couldn't get his MP's to support that, so the Party took a hammering. (There were other issues like the massive leap to the left, as well).

And, considering what he started with, and where he started from, Sir Kier has done an OK job to my mind.
He has of course been helped by Boris's run of silly mistakes.

So it's NOT the Party Faithfull who will pick the next PM but one, it's the floating voters.
And IF it's Truss v Starmer, unless she does very well, and her Policies look almost dangerous, then change may be on the way..
It's NOT just about a credible opposition.
It's also about a credible Govenment.

 

Your right about the Corbyn era being over, but what is left now, No strategy Starmer and even worse Rayner, can you imagine either of them at g7 gatherings.

 

I agree, Lisa Nandy or Rebbeca Long Bailey for me , but the affluent South would not allow it, and that's the truth of the matter.

 

What a terrifying thought, makes you shudder.

 

I was thinking along the lines of PRS about voting for the Green Party and then this popped up, are the whole bloody lot of them mad?
This is where the New Zealand
Government is pushing the farmers here.
Their main objective, in conjunction with
the Green Party, is to see all our good
productive farmland, sold and put into
pine forests. We are loosing so much
land to big corporations, like Air New
Zealand, who are buying up good
farming land and turning them into pine
torests, so the can claim the carbon
credits.
We are being strangled by mountains of
regulations, yet see no such regulations
enforced on city dwellers. The Green
Party want us farmers to reduce our
stock numbers to ridiculous levels. On a
recent carbon emissions paper on out
puts of live stock, sheep apparescored
higher than cows and they expect us to
pay a certain amount per animal for
these emissions!! I tell you, the
Netherlands are not alone in being
squeezed by the neck by their
Government. New Zealand has always
been a world leader in food production

 

BUT, like it or not there is an element of sense in it.

Farm animals are responsible for the majority of Methane added to the atmosphere.
Methane is a Greenhouse Gas, and this output should be reduced.

The best answer, but one that is unpalitable to most of us, (in every way), is for the Human Race to turn vegetarian.
Use those vast tracts of land that presently grow meat, to grow VEG.

Pie in the Sky, I hear you say.
But a few years ago could you have imagined any Government in The World advocationg killing off their most aboundant meat supply and replacing it with trees?

 

I would rather have a nice steak, pork chop or a chicken Sunday roast and the governments ban all flying and ground the planes

 

Is it just cows or do sheep and horses fart methane as well ?

 

Everything that farts do I think just some worse than others.The twats who want to ban animals are all veggie/vegan nutters, there is plenty of diets being experimented that will eliminate methane in farts and others where buildings can be adapted to collect the methane and use it on the farm. We are being took over by the Greens veggies and vegan nut cases.

 

We are being taken over by all the minorities. At least all of us who aren't in a minority, will become a minority of people, so then we can claim that we belong to a minority.

 

Was that Putin or the Australian prime minister?

 

hadn’t noticed that like
Admittedly looking at the current cabinet we’ve been taken over by nutcases. Hadn’t realised their dietary exclusions. Maybe tractor porn related to their love of harvesting, maybe the groping was looking for a veggie sausage

 

I'm with you on that marra

 

It will be interesting to see how the red wall Tories fair should Remainer Liz Truss become the new PM.