Double whammy!
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I say we just wait and see what really occurs in the next few days but if Levy allows either one or both of AVB or Comolli anywhere near our club, I am convinced it will be a short lived relationship that will all end in tears... mostly for us fans. I hope I'm wrong but on past records and just plain common sense based on the evidence we have seen, this will go south very fast. I'll give it 18 months and we'll be begging for Harry come back and asking for Levy's head!
'No approaches have been made – directly – so far by Spurs to anyone but agents are jostling for position and have contacted a number of candidates.'
The last line of the article tells you that what preceded it was pure speculation, otherwise known as bullshit. Why waste your adrenalin on this.
The last line of the article tells you that what preceded it was pure speculation, otherwise known as bullshit. Why waste your adrenalin on this.
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Regardless of who we get next, Redknapp had to go. He put himself and his own interests before those of the club, got into a power-struggle with the board, and lost. In short, he made his own position at the club an impossible one. He may well be a good motivator of football players, but he comes across as pretty stupid in all other areas.
I don't want AVB at the club (or Comolli), but if it takes us having a mare of a season or two to get it into Levy's mind that the club is going to have to spend the right money to get in the right man, it will have been worth it, as far as I am concerned.
That all being said, I hope that the Club's approach to AVB is merely part of the board's thoroughness, in looking at every possible angle, and that AVB is not the only option Levy is looking at.
Yes spurf, we all (well most of us) know all these articles are mainly guesswork BUT the worrying aspect is they are similar to my own view of what i feel levy believes is the best approach, best system and the reason I comment on these articles is because it wouldn't surprise me at all if we end up with a disaster like avb or go back to the dof system.
judging from your orignal post i thought you would be glad that someone is backing Harry?
who do you want us to get Flas?
The most important part of the article is the fourth paragraph...
Given that Levy has spent the last four years trying to recoup money that Comolli pissed up the wall as if he'd just downed eight pints of Carlsberg, the chances of him being brought in are infinitesimally minuscule - Levy doesn't want to be lynched, and the only re-appointment more likely to make that happen is if he brought in Christian Gross.
and before anyone says anything, i know thse articles are just journos mouthing off and having their rant yet i'm sure levys "dream" was to get spurs into the champions league and be in contention for the league and the only manager that has done this or come close is arry redknapp so you can understand why he has so many fans.
The Sun say Sherwood will become DoF, which is equally unlikely. It's far more likely his current role will be expanded, so he'll be overseeing both the NexGen team as he was last season as well as taking Clive Allen's job in charge of the reserves - because we may well have a reserve team once again, rather than loan them all out to teams across the top two divisions.
More importantly I would think that Joe Lewis would go apeshit over the prospect of Levy allowing Comolli to piss even more of his money away!
like HIAG said...doesnt matter who we get..Harry had to go.
i think the clue was in the phrase 'Spurs want to take a diffrent direction'
Since we were on the rise in the grand scheme of things...i doubt Levy meant that we want to go backwards as oppose to forwards.
a diffrent direction probably means diffrent approach...since Levy wasnt exactly going to issue a statement saying something along the lines of...
'Harry may have helped us rise up the league...but he is a gobby **** who spouts off at the media...was whoring the England job...which resulted in Harry taking his eye off the job that pays him....was trying to bully a new contract at a time when i was bereaving the loss of my mother...all in all he pissed me off with his cocky attitude...and i dont like being disrespected in that manner as his boss...so i couldnt give a fukin monkeys if he got us to 4th'
since he couldnt say something along these lines he was very respectful and diplomatic and said 'Spurs want to take a new direction'
unlike Harry who decided to issue a bloody statement denying internet rumuours about his departure...how pathetic as there are hundreds of rumuors every day regarding players and managers....but Harry felt the need to get on his soap box.
i dont know wether any of the 'Harry is a magician and Levy is an idiot' brigade have ever had business experience but i can tell you its better to have a little less in life(in this case the team takes a few steps back for now) than to have someone in your business that you dont trust and for many reasons.
I want a manager that can take us onto another level..Harry for me would not improve us...he might maintain our top 4/5 finishes...however even then many times he moved the goal posts everytime the team could not do the job...and always it was at critical stages of the season where we could make a statement to the rest of the PL....his teams choke.
so maybe Levy saw this too and with the tradition of our club that we all love and boast about...you know 'Audere Est Facere'.....he thought im going to dare to shake it up because unless i do this...we wont ever move up a level.
hes dared...and now he has done......so the risk has been taken..if it pays off then we will all say he did the right thing...but if it doesnt i will still say 'well done Levy you tried to take us a step up and failed...but id rather that than to always be wondering 'what if'...
and to suggest that due to Harry's departure we will be mid table or worse......it makes me wonder who are the mad ones...some of us or Levy....give our players a little bit more respect and give Levy a little bit more respect....yeah i know about Juande Ramos...but even then after the change was made...and it was something Levy did, not us.....we shot up the table..because our squad was in a false position..Ramos lasted 8 matches in his first full season...so Levy is not afraid to make a change and if things seem to be going tits up for our new man..im sure Levy will do what must be done...then we start again and look for someone who is capable of reaching heights unknown.
in the meantime we may lose Modric,Bale maybe VDV.......but thats 100million in the bank for other players..we will be fine with that..we quikly rose and can do it again.
i have followed Spurs for 31 years i average 1 trophy a decade to celebrate...u know what so long as the intention is right with Levy i am willing to wait another few years.....but i know if Levy remains with us..we will get there.
i think the clue was in the phrase 'Spurs want to take a diffrent direction'
Since we were on the rise in the grand scheme of things...i doubt Levy meant that we want to go backwards as oppose to forwards.
a diffrent direction probably means diffrent approach...since Levy wasnt exactly going to issue a statement saying something along the lines of...
'Harry may have helped us rise up the league...but he is a gobby **** who spouts off at the media...was whoring the England job...which resulted in Harry taking his eye off the job that pays him....was trying to bully a new contract at a time when i was bereaving the loss of my mother...all in all he pissed me off with his cocky attitude...and i dont like being disrespected in that manner as his boss...so i couldnt give a fukin monkeys if he got us to 4th'
since he couldnt say something along these lines he was very respectful and diplomatic and said 'Spurs want to take a new direction'
unlike Harry who decided to issue a bloody statement denying internet rumuours about his departure...how pathetic as there are hundreds of rumuors every day regarding players and managers....but Harry felt the need to get on his soap box.
i dont know wether any of the 'Harry is a magician and Levy is an idiot' brigade have ever had business experience but i can tell you its better to have a little less in life(in this case the team takes a few steps back for now) than to have someone in your business that you dont trust and for many reasons.
I want a manager that can take us onto another level..Harry for me would not improve us...he might maintain our top 4/5 finishes...however even then many times he moved the goal posts everytime the team could not do the job...and always it was at critical stages of the season where we could make a statement to the rest of the PL....his teams choke.
so maybe Levy saw this too and with the tradition of our club that we all love and boast about...you know 'Audere Est Facere'.....he thought im going to dare to shake it up because unless i do this...we wont ever move up a level.
hes dared...and now he has done......so the risk has been taken..if it pays off then we will all say he did the right thing...but if it doesnt i will still say 'well done Levy you tried to take us a step up and failed...but id rather that than to always be wondering 'what if'...
and to suggest that due to Harry's departure we will be mid table or worse......it makes me wonder who are the mad ones...some of us or Levy....give our players a little bit more respect and give Levy a little bit more respect....yeah i know about Juande Ramos...but even then after the change was made...and it was something Levy did, not us.....we shot up the table..because our squad was in a false position..Ramos lasted 8 matches in his first full season...so Levy is not afraid to make a change and if things seem to be going tits up for our new man..im sure Levy will do what must be done...then we start again and look for someone who is capable of reaching heights unknown.
in the meantime we may lose Modric,Bale maybe VDV.......but thats 100million in the bank for other players..we will be fine with that..we quikly rose and can do it again.
i have followed Spurs for 31 years i average 1 trophy a decade to celebrate...u know what so long as the intention is right with Levy i am willing to wait another few years.....but i know if Levy remains with us..we will get there.
Just one thing about Comolli, while the subject's resurfaced.
I've been told by someone that it was him that signed Caulker.
Still wouldn't want him back, though!
I've been told by someone that it was him that signed Caulker.
Still wouldn't want him back, though!
Dona, i admire your faith in Levy, even though we don't fully agree on this.
Just to pick up on a few things, "this next level" does it not concern you even slightly that levy employed santini and ramos to take us to this "next level"? even you must be able to say that was poor judgement.
Also does it not concern you that each time we have tried to go to the next level, with a foreign manager, not only do they not speak english, they have to work with a DOF.
Now, does it not say a lot about football and what works that our two most successful premier league managers were constantly slated (by all of us at times) for being naive or not tactically astute enough to take us to "that level" but in fact are the only two managers since 1992 to give us real respect as a team and actually take us forward......... what is this level? the title? champions league glory?
Maybe you could try and realise that this "level" everyone speaks about isn't going to happen just by getting "mr perfect" to come and manage us, it requires a change in system elsewhere so its rather ironic that redknapp has been sacked for a "different approach" when the "different approach" to improve us isn't needed by changing the manager.
Just to pick up on a few things, "this next level" does it not concern you even slightly that levy employed santini and ramos to take us to this "next level"? even you must be able to say that was poor judgement.
Also does it not concern you that each time we have tried to go to the next level, with a foreign manager, not only do they not speak english, they have to work with a DOF.
Now, does it not say a lot about football and what works that our two most successful premier league managers were constantly slated (by all of us at times) for being naive or not tactically astute enough to take us to "that level" but in fact are the only two managers since 1992 to give us real respect as a team and actually take us forward......... what is this level? the title? champions league glory?
Maybe you could try and realise that this "level" everyone speaks about isn't going to happen just by getting "mr perfect" to come and manage us, it requires a change in system elsewhere so its rather ironic that redknapp has been sacked for a "different approach" when the "different approach" to improve us isn't needed by changing the manager.
i totally get what you are saying Boss..and i cack myself at the thought that this might backfire...and that is exactly the reason why i am clueless as to who we will get or who we should get because yes i do back Levy but i also know that Harry raised the bar immensely so the next manager has a massive job on his hands.
However i just cant see how Levy had an option considering how Harry was going on...and my point is that we may have to take a few steps back now..but surely you cant have a manager who thinks he has made our club better than it has ever been...i cant buy that no matter what.
yes he has improved us..and yes everything that i am using to back Levy with is speculation..since there have been no direct quotes from Levy...however he was the manager of Spurs for 4 years..therefore we Spurs fans kind of got a very good jist on Harry's personality..therefore i am happy to say the things i have done about Harry and his demeanour.....and regardless of his success he made it very difficult for Levy to do anything but to get rid..Levy wont be bitten for a dollar..so i cant see him taking any rubbish from Harry that is not within his right.
As for the foreign managers being useless i agree..we got the wrong foreign managers in thats why...but on the other hand..the top tier foreign managers wouldnt come to us back then...why should they? however maybe now we might be able to get a higher proven calibre in.
you say the diffrent approach is not needed by changing the manager..but im afraid it is when the manager is Harry Redknapp who wont even change a tactic due to his stubborness never mind the whole philosophy of the club.
it is a tricky one and lets be honest all of us are rather clueless as to who is the right manager as its a strange situation we have found ourselves in.
Lets just hope whoever comes in is a perfect match with the club, fans and our history of playing attractive football and ultimately has the leadership skills to keep us as a top four club.
This is why i'm dreading some of the names being branded about as they couldn't be a worse match .
Reason i believe this, is because for what we want as fans, and what the club seem to be striving for, imo can't be achieved by the resources and transfer strategy the manager has to work within.
Lets just hope whoever comes in is a perfect match with the club, fans and our history of playing attractive football and ultimately has the leadership skills to keep us as a top four club.
This is why i'm dreading some of the names being branded about as they couldn't be a worse match .
Reason i believe this, is because for what we want as fans, and what the club seem to be striving for, imo can't be achieved by the resources and transfer strategy the manager has to work within.
basically we are all wanting the best for the club and i think as you say we can just hope on the next man being a strong manager...and i think your last statement is correct Boss..i also believe that unless we change our wage cap..we wont attract certain players..its a shame but its how it is..so we either join them because we wont beat them...therefore i think something will have to give or we might just have to accept that 3rd/4th is best we can do for a long time...in which case all the people who believe Harry should have stayed will be proven correct...well ill be back after the footie....need to tot some points up to catch you up in the Fantasy league Boss
in a bit lads.