Well if gerrard is all of those then you are certainly something but I doubt its very often (if ever) right.
I don't disagree with you that there aren't many seemingly realistic options that are better than Walcott out there but I was just saying that your particular argument was flawed in a sense. And if I had to nominate some players I would either say Erik Lamela, Mathieu Valbuena or Hatem Ben Arfa. But I don't know how realistic they are!
I like him. Think he's much better on the ball than Walcott. But Walcott has the eye for goal and the instinct to run in behind and stretch defences, something Ben Arfa doesn't really do.
I dont like that phrase but i understand the sentiment, you may very well be thinking four five years down the line with a big thumbs up but, if we dont sort something between now and may we may be in a position where we could only dream of getting a sturridge or a walcott (do think ince is a silly one as we would look incredibly stupid). It is one of those tough decisions that people get paid lots of money to make. Are the days really over where you can get a rush from crewe. Fletcher prob could have done us some good at not that too expensive a price, so why not look down the leagues or give morgan a chance. I dont know, but to get back to op that is why i would not rule out two of those three cause they are better than what we have (dont think we should judge borini till next season though)
It's hilarious how under-rated Walcott is. Just because he burst onto the scene at 16 and didn't make the immediate impact people expected does not mean he is no good. And silly pundits throwing around the "no football brain" thing didn't help his image either! Over the last 2 and a half seasons he has been one of our most productive players with a good return on goals and assists (up there with the best in the league). He was a big influence on RVP's goal tally last season. He forces teams to sit further back and is lethal on the counter. His movement is very good. His ability to go past his man has improved and his crossing has been top quality this season. He is becoming a much more complete player. Arsenal fans will be very annoyed if he leaves but i think most of us think he will stay. I don't know how many Arsenal fans you know but "most arsenal fans don't want Walcott" is a load of rubbish.. Most fans think he is one of our most important players! He makes Arsenal a more dangerous team when he is on the pitch and he is not nearly as inconssitent as people make out. Personally i don't think you can hope to sign a player as good as Walcott or better unless they are an un-heard of who turns out to be very good. To get a player who gives the return Theo does you'll be looking to pay big money! He's better than any wide player you have and Suarez is the only striker you have who would start ahead of him down the middle. I think it's ridiculous you'd turn your nose up at him the way you have. If Liverpool managed to sign Walcott they would be making a big step in the right direction. He turns up in the big games as well - Barca, Spurs, Chelsea etc... As for swapping him with Sterling. I don't think you'd find many Arsenal fans who would want this. We have waited with Theo and he is turning into a great player and he is better than Sterling. I have no doubt Sterling will keep improving and be a good player but i wouldn't risk Walcott's proven quality against Sterlings potential.
Fair enough, you're entitled to an opinion and as a Arsenal fan you are in a better position to judge Theo than me. However, you aren't in a better (or worse) position to be able to say how much he would improve the Liverpool team! My comment of "most arsenal fans don't want Walcott" comes from what I have read, what I have heard on the radio and the comments made by a couple of Arsenal supporting mates. However, I will admit that the last two, three or four months these comments do seem to have dried up a little. It wasn't that long ago that Theo was getting slated by Arsenal fans, of course it depends on opinion and there are fair few Arsenal fans about who all have a different view so I'm certainly not going to put you all in the same box! I actually agree with some of your comments about him, but I am going to pick up on is the bit about pundits saying he has the football brain. The only reason I am picking up on that is because I feel you are insinuating that I have no mind of my own and that I am just following the media, this couldn't be further from the truth!!!! Most pundits annoy the life out of me and I very rarely read what they write or listen to what they say, when I do it is just as rare for me to take any notice! I know he burst onto the scene at a very young age and it was far too early. I know expectation for him were high and he has not lived up to them (yet, no fault of his own as they were too high), but I feel he has not progressed at great deal despite these expectations. He has improved recently but I think he is playing for a contract, at Arsenal or not, I've said this a few times on this thread now (Ryan Babel always did similar when an international tournament was looming!). He got assists last season and you say it contributed to RVP's figures. I'd say it the other way around, RVP being in the side made Theo's figures better I don't think his crossing is great but he does get the ball into the box. His shooting is definitely getting better though TBH, if Theo wasn't expecting £80k per week (£10k is media talk, more realistically £80k ish IMO) then I would be more inclined to consider it but he simply is not worth that sort of money IMO.
I mostly agree with noble.... ince wouldn't sing a new deal and frankly was not as good as sterling. we've put out faith in him and cleare dout silva, inca and alex K at fulham... why cos they are all good but not top 4 good unlike sterling. sturridge has a really bad attitude cos anyone at a top club at his age bleating about where he's used i nthe first team is an idiot... and wlacott is always injured. if we've 80k per week wages to throw about isuggest we do so for the very best player we can get across the world, not from london.
Walcott 2010/11 - 13 Goals, 9 Assists 2011/12 - 11 Goals, 10 Assists 2012/13 (so far) - 9 Goals, 7 Assists - this is mainly as a sub due to suffering some niggling injuries. For the last couple of seasons his understanding with Sagna and RVP has made a big difference for us. He also worked very well with Rosicky at the end of last season which was a big factor in us getting back to 3rd. His stats are up there with the very best wingers around and this season he is absolutely on fire. He has been gradually building his performances and i don't think it is to do with the contract, but rather to do with the fact he is actually comming good on his potential now. I agree, if you go back to last year or the year before i'm sure there are some ******ed Arsenal fans talking about how he isn't good enough, these fans have almost all realised they where completely wrong. He can change a game on his own and has done against top opposition, he tore Barca a new one and when we got drawn to play them again the following year Pep, Messi and others where comming out saying Walcott was the player who could hurt them, they where scared of his pace, he was the man they needed to watch for (Not RVP or Fabregas etc...). I do think that him arriving to early on the scene and the media abuse he has got have done him no good. He is finally shaking that off though and has gradually been gettign more and mroe consistent. As for his crossing - if you have watched Arsenal this season you will see he has put in some absolutely brilliant crosses and has even been on corner taking duty. Last season he put several goals on a plate for RVP. And he is known for having great finishing ability, it was one of the things that got him noticed as a young player!
afcftw... I've not seen much of Arsenal this season so I will take your word on it I hope Walcott does come good, it would be a benefit for England and I always like to see top players in the Premier League no matter who they play for (apart from against us). I will hopefully be watching the game later today I'd wish you luck but I don't want you guys to win today I do have Arsenal on my accumalator though
We don't want a winger, we want an all out striker. We have Sterling and Suso on the wing, and if we get a striker, we will also have Suarez who can come in from either side. We need someone who knows how to put a ball in a net without looking at either.
I don't see why not, or Falcao Everyone thinks we should be shopping in the bargain bins. A world class striker would see that they would be the final piece in the puzzle and would get us Champions League football next season. I do want someone who is happy to work for their rewards, not be demanding them from the outset.
We will not being moving Suarez out wide. He is the league's top scorer. Its the supporting cast that is the problem, which is what I suspect Rodgers will try to rectify in January by bringing in better wide players to support Suarez.
Agreed but unfortunately I suspect Rodgers doesn't. He wants Suarez in the F9 position (he's top scorer so far so why not?) so we will be looking for scorers from wide positions.
