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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Angelicnumber16, May 11, 2023.

  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    In a country that is around 86% white, although that’s going down by the year, it’s hardly surprising and indeed if it was the other way round, it would be unacceptable which is why the likes of the RAF were told to reign it in
     
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    I don’t think it’s a terrible thing for the RAF, police etc. to better represent the people they serve. It shouldn’t be the main criteria for hiring people all the time especially in organisations struggling to attract people but the police, for example, having more black officers in areas with a lot of black people just makes sense IMO when there’s an understandable lack of trust in the police from certain ethnic groups.
     
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    I disagree
    The best person for a role irrespective of ethnicity or background, and providing they are physically capable of more demanding jobs should be the person who gets it
    Far too much box ticking goes on as companies and institutions prove how inclusive they are
    As someone who has worked with local government departments, I’ve seen what employing a quota brings and what that is, is people who aren’t interested or game their positions and the system. Then of course the employer can’t touch them otherwise they will cry racism.
    Why aren’t there that many black police officers ?
    Because it is seen as working for the enemy amongst certain groups
     
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    Well yes. All the more reason to seek to hire more black officers and change that potentially dangerous dynamic.
     
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    Nice in theory and would be a great idea, apart from the fact that there will only be a tiny number who want to do it
     
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    Policing in this country is done by consent, as long as ethnic minorities feel marginalised it will never improve. The best way to change the perception of the police in marginalised areas is for the police to look more like them and understand their issues. I agree though it’s a two way thing, they have to put themselves forward in greater numbers. It’s not easy but collectively we have to try somehow to square the circle.
     
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    I agree to a point and yes we do.
    But when young lives are needlessly being lost to gang bravado and the drugs trade, particularly in London, and where the Mayor does literally nothing to stop it as he’s too focused on ripping off the motorists with the despicable ULEZ plan, and the elders of the community also don’t seem to give a toss or want to get involved then it’s an issue that feels like it will never be stopped
    It’s abhorrent, but also serious family and parenting (or lack of) questions need to be asked and they won’t be.
     
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    I don’t think it’s a party issue as such, it’s more a societal thing. It’s not something that will get better unless as a society we change attitudes. I do think more local policing would help, working closer with the communities.
     
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    The labour party are changing the make up of the City at cost to us its inhabitants us the people who live here. The centre and what were working class areas like Bedminster are being flooded with middle class students who bolster labours vote. Rees Labours mayor is even using our council tax to do it tens of milions spunked up the wall around temple meads not to build an arena but yet more flats for rich students. Woke diversity here means flats for labour voting rich kids ****ing over those who were born here cant afford them.
     
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    Times change. People change. If Tory voters are moving on to other areas those areas will vote more Tory. It’s a great university for both education and the fun stuff and students have to live somewhere and tend to want to live in city/town centres.

    Perhaps if it’s an issue, the Tories could try offering policies that appeal to young people rather than focussing all their efforts on pensioners and xenophobes.
     
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    Not this fast, never this fast, this is a invasion and remember labour are for the many not the few. Labour should be pushing for homes for key workers in the centre not just their middle class supporters.
     
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    It’s obviously not an invasion. That’s just silly hyperbole.

    I don’t know Bristol well but looking at Bristol West it has voted Labour or Lib Dem in general elections since 1997 and even when the Tories were winning for some time before that it was with a plurality. Given traditional Tory voters tend to vote more than those of their opponents I’d hypothesise there hasn’t been much support for them in the area for about as long as the period you’re talking and certainly not for a generation.

    Key workers should have access to homes close to their work. Students should have homes close to where they study.
     
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    Its an invasion. There will be thousands of student flats built around the centre and bs3 to add to the thousands already there. There will not be thousands for key workers working class people. The centre and surrounding areas is becoming a ghetto for those who were not born here. We are losing our City. We should be building homes for Bristolians because we have a chronic situation here as we cant build enough affordable homes and that is without giving land away to big business (labour is doing that!!) to build for the wealthy. My kids will never be able to afford to buy a house, the way its going that might not be able to move out rents have gone sky high, they might be able to buy once me and their mother die.
     
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    You sound like a Tory.

    As an old school lefty I believe in reciprocity. There is mammoth pressure here on housing stock. We should have systems that create advantage for local people to be helped onto the housing ladder. In regards to social housing advantage should go to those who have lived in this City the longest.

    Our ahem Labour party don't seem to care about ordinary peoples real life problems.
     
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    I see the positives of doing that but I guess it’s unfair on those who have wanted to live in the city for years but haven’t been able to. I’m all for more social housing for those with the greatest need and more housing in general.
     
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    There is a lot of older wiser generation on here active or just reading .. and that comment is the biggest unfounded load of drivel to be heard for a long time.

    [ for drivel = male (slang for) testicles ]
     
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    Ok. What is the government trying to do for younger people? Graduates have a huge tax burden, it’s increasingly difficult to get on the property ladder, public services are crap, inflation is rampant, rents are extortionate etc.

    Being in government isn’t just about wooing voters but is there any argument for anyone under 60 voting Tory right now?
     
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    Forage is absolutely correct.
    Brexit has been totally mismanaged by the inept Tory government.
    How many ministers have had to resign because of cock up after cock up ?
    It's unfair to say Brexit has failed.
    The useless bas***ds running this country have failed.
     
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