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Do We Miss Bent

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steven Royston O'Neill, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. HoughtonMackem

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    I dont believe we miss Bent at all. At his peak a couple of seasons ago, at this stage of the season, we had scored 30 goals but conceded 40. This season, despite everyone saying we need a "bent type of player" weve scored 29 goals yet only conceded 24.

    Our 1st elevel is now more of a team aand we dont rely on just one player to score. Take Bent out of that team and we would of been relegated. Take Bentdner (our main striker) out of our team now and we'd probably still be in a similar position.

    In my opinion I would rather we have a team like we have now, where we can score from anywhere, rather than a team that has an out and out goalscorer but have us heavily reliant on that player!

    This is why I would rather have Gyan back than Bent as he is the type of player that can score and create chances aswel as make openings for others due to his movement.
     
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  2. Bizarreknives

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    I said several times on here.
    I'd have him back tomorrow.
     
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  3. Vincemac

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    yes cant use these keys to well in the dom rep'
     
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  4. Billy Death

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    I used to have a teacher called Miss Bent & she was **** inspiration for me.

    Bet she's still fit.
     
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  5. cest

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    How many times will the same question be asked?? Bent would never in his wildist dreams come back, nor will we pay his monstrous wages or pay the £30-35 mill villa will want for him. Imaginations do seem to run far on here
     
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  6. Billy Death

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    <laugh> They wont get owt near that mate, if they do I'll go to the SOL in the nude, lol.
     
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  7. cest

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    There would be no point selling there best and record striker for any less than a 7-10 million pound profit.
     
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  8. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    Problem is you did not read the question, not asking if we should buy him, mut pay more attention.
     
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  9. Lever Malone

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    Please, please, please Aston Villa if you do sell Bent don't sell him for £30 -£35 million!!! <yikes>:emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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  10. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    My question in the OP was not should we take him back it was more about style of play, what I was getting at is would Bent fit MON's style.
     
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  11. Commachio

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    Yes he'd fit...all them balls being pinged in...he'd score loads.
     
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  12. Commachio

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    Sunderland’s decision to sack manager Steve Bruce and appoint Martin O’Neill has dramatically changed their season. When O’Neill took charge of his first game against Blackburn on 11th December Sunderland found themselves in 17th position in the league with 11 points from 14 games. Following Saturday’s victory over Swansea the club sits in 10th place with 27 points, having accumulated 16 points from just 8 games under their new manager.

    Under Bruce, Sunderland averaged just 0.79 points per game, scoring 1.14 and conceding 1.21 goals per game in the process. Under O’Neill the team has seen a huge improvement to an average of 2 points per game, scoring more (1.63) and conceding fewer (0.88). This record is all the more impressive given that O’Neill’s brief tenure has included away fixtures at Tottenham and Chelsea and a home game against league leaders Man City. Had Sunderland demonstrated this form from the beginning of the season they would be currently sitting in 4th place.

    So how has O’Neill brought about this change in fortune?

    Team Selection

    Martin O’Neill has had the same squad at his disposal, and has largely used the same players and the same formation. The table below shows the players that have started in the league for Sunderland under both O’Neill and Steve Bruce. Ten players have started at least half of the games under both managers, with four starting at least 75%. However, two players in particular have been used much more frequently under O’Neill. David Vaughan mostly warmed the bench for Bruce but has since started every game, while James McClean has gone from playing in the reserves to becoming an active member of the first team.


    One point that does come across is the consistency of selection under O’Neill. Nine players have started at least 75% of the games, compared to only five players under Bruce. In fact three players have started every game for O’Neill and, but for injuries to Simon Mignolet, Wes Brown, Kieran Richardson, Sebastian Larsson and Nicklas Bendtner, that figure could easily be eight. This also suggests that, rather than O’Neill being luckier with player availability, he has simply identified his favoured players much more quickly than Bruce.

    Passing

    While the personnel may not have changed dramatically, Martin O’Neill has certainly altered the way Sunderland play. Steve Bruce favoured a more patient approach, leading to shorter passing and plenty of square-balls across the midfield and defensive line. Under O’Neill Sunderland have looked to play much more directly, with lots of long-balls down the flanks and into the forwards.


    (Under Steve Bruce – high volume of short passing in the midfield area)

    Following O’Neill’s appointment, Sunderland’s passing is very different in games away to QPR and at home to Everton. The clusters of passing in the midfield has been replaced with longer passes from defence.





    (Under Martin O’Neill – majority of passes bypass the midfield)

    This change in passing is further reflected by Sunderland’s passing success under the two managers. In the fourteen games prior to O’Neill’s appointment the team had a passing success of 76%. In the eight games since their success rate has dropped to 70%.

    Possession

    Sunderland’s direct approach has resulted in a drop in their share of possession. In the eight games under Martin O’Neill, Sunderland have only had the majority of the ball once, against Blackburn in his first game in charge, and average 42.3% possession overall. Whether there is a conscious intention to cede possession to their opponents and adopt a counter-attacking style is unclear, but certainly a pattern is evident. Under Steve Bruce Sunderland averaged 46.6% possession, which may not seem to be a considerable difference. However they had at least 50% possession in seven of fourteen games, winning only once and losing three times.

    This may have influenced O’Neill’s plans, as clearly attempting to dominate possession was not working. Wigan are one of the few teams that both Bruce and O’Neill have faced this season, and the statistics are interesting. Under Steve Bruce Sunderland had 53% possession and lost 2-1. Under Martin O’Neill Sunderland had only 37% possession and won 4-1.

    Defensive Line

    Sunderland’s ceding of possession has led to another feature under Martin O’Neill, that of defensive depth. While Steve Bruce hardly played an aggressive press, he did attempt to play a much higher line and looked to win the ball further up the field. Since O’Neill has taken over, Sunderland’s defence has dropped much deeper and they have largely looked to drop back into their own half before attempting to win the ball back.


    Using the Wigan game again as a direct comparison it becomes clear how much deeper Sunderland played. Looking at the players’ average position using ESPN’s Soccernet GameCast you can see how Sunderland’s central defenders attempted to push up towards the halfway line under Bruce, whereas for O’Neill they remained on the edge of their own penalty area.




    (Under Steve Bruce – only 4 players’ average position is in Sunderland’s half)



    (Under Martin O’Neill – in a complete transformation, only 4 players’ average position is in the opponent’s half)

    Summary

    It seems that Martin O’Neill has prioritised making Sunderland difficult to beat, by dropping deeper and playing more directly, but in doing so has actually got them scoring more goals and winning more games.

    The balance of the team appears to be better. James McClean has provided natural width on the left to compliment Sebastian Larsson on the other flank. Behind them Phil Bardsley has been moved to his preferred position of right-back with Kieran Richardson taking the left-back spot, resulting in two left-footed players on the left and two right-footed players on the right.

    This has also allowed Stephane Sessegnon, arguably Sunderland’s best player this season, the freedom to play centrally and link the midfield to Nicklas Bendtner up front. He seems to have revelled in the role, with three goals and three assists in the eight games under O’Neill compared to two goals and three assists in fourteen games under Steve Bruce.

    At the back the likes of Wes Brown and John O’Shea have benefitted from a deeper line and consistent selection, while ahead of them both Lee Cattermole and David Vaughan combine energy and ability on the ball. It is unsurprising that Vaughan has featured so heavily for O’Neill in this system given that direct passing to the flanks was a large part of Blackpool’s style last season.

    Time will tell if O’Neill’s initial changes turn into long-term plans. Either way, it has been an excellent start, and the club now have an outside chance of qualifying for Europe. It will be interesting to see how the Sunderland board back O’Neill in the transfer market, seeing as a lack of funds reportedly caused him to walk out on Villa.
     
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